Full Face Masks and Inspiration

Gasman · 12th March 2006, 10:55

Does anyone have any personal experience of using either the Kirby-Morgan Mk48 Super mask or the Apeks / Drager Panorama FFMs with the Inspiration?

Thanks

Andrew

diverrob · 12th March 2006, 18:28

I have not used it with the inspo but I did a test dive with the Super Mask on my KISS Dolphin yesterday. The dive was to 150' for 20 BT and the total dive time was :38. My overall impressions were not that great, the field of vision throught the mask was poor at best and I found it difficult to equalize my ears (had to use 2 hands). I also did not like the way the mouthpiece wanted to pull away from my mouth. This forced me to hold it tighter in my mouth and gave me some discomfort during the short dive. I will be looking for a different FFM in the future.

Rob

Nick uk. · 12th March 2006, 18:35

I have a scubapro, and it doesn't pull on the mouth-piece though the field of vision is 'slightly' less than normal, especialy when looking down. Allso equalising isn't easy!!

Mark Y · 7th November 2006, 19:53

What type of scubapro FFM do you use? Was it easy to modify for the Inspiration?

Any other comments on FFM would be greatly appreciated!

chunter · 7th November 2006, 20:13

I agree with Rob on the SuperMask. While it is easy to adapt to CCR use, and allows for fairly easy bailout via the "pod" mouthpiece, I have found it to be a cumbersome piece of equipment. This is especially true on units with over-the-shoulder counterlungs because the mask prohibits your head from turning to the side. Communications work well with these, but I'd only use them where surface comms were essential. Field of vision also sucks. It feels like you are inside a submarine.

As far as the FFM goes with use on the Inspiration, it is very difficult. Closing the DSV is clumsy. It does work better with the KISS OC/DSV.

I'd rather duct-tape my mouthpiece to my face to prevent drowning in a CNS fit.

Aloha,
Charlie

Quote: (Originally Posted by diverrob)

I have not used it with the inspo but I did a test dive with the Super Mask on my KISS Dolphin yesterday. My overall impressions were not that great, the field of vision throught the mask was poor at best and I found it difficult to equalize my ears (had to use 2 hands). I also did not like the way the mouthpiece wanted to pull away from my mouth. This forced me to hold it tighter in my mouth and gave me some discomfort during the short dive. I will be looking for a different FFM in the future.

Rob

Ben Field · 8th November 2006, 10:12

Quote: (Originally Posted by chunter)

I'd rather duct-tape my mouthpiece to my face to prevent drowning in a CNS fit.

Any chance we could have "Quote of the day" on the Home page? I nominate this for the first one

Mark Y · 8th November 2006, 14:20

Quote: (Originally Posted by chunter)

I'd rather duct-tape my mouthpiece to my face to prevent drowning in a CNS fit.

Aloha,
Charlie

Hah! I appreciate your input!

BTW - What color duct-tape do you recommend?

chunter · 10th November 2006, 22:39

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Y)

Hah! I appreciate your input!

BTW - What color duct-tape do you recommend?

I always use black...more stealthy. The barracudas also attack the silver.

paulraymaekers · 11th November 2006, 08:12

Quote: (Originally Posted by chunter)

I always use black...more stealthy. The barracudas also attack the silver.

try the drager panorama nova: great field of vision, mouthpiece can slide towards your mouth
don't know if there is an adaptor for inspi, I use it on my rEvo

only problem when connecting a 2° stage at the side, you must block the venting valve of that second stage, if not you constantly loose gas by that valve

but the mask is great :-)

regards
paul

12th March 2006, 10:55	#1 (permalink)
Gasman New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 33	Full Face Masks and Inspiration Does anyone have any personal experience of using either the Kirby-Morgan Mk48 Super mask or the Apeks / Drager Panorama FFMs with the Inspiration? Thanks Andrew
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12th March 2006, 18:28	#2 (permalink)
diverrob The Evolution of Diving Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other SCR Join Date: May 2005 Location: Victoria BC Canada Posts: 329	Re: Full Face Masks and Inspiration I have not used it with the inspo but I did a test dive with the Super Mask on my KISS Dolphin yesterday. The dive was to 150' for 20 BT and the total dive time was :38. My overall impressions were not that great, the field of vision throught the mask was poor at best and I found it difficult to equalize my ears (had to use 2 hands). I also did not like the way the mouthpiece wanted to pull away from my mouth. This forced me to hold it tighter in my mouth and gave me some discomfort during the short dive. I will be looking for a different FFM in the future. Rob
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12th March 2006, 18:35	#3 (permalink)
Nick uk. Made in England. Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Azimuth Other Rebreather/s: Azimuth Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Viale C.Colombo 75 Marina di Carrara. MS 54036 Italy Posts: 579	Re: Full Face Masks and Inspiration I have a scubapro, and it doesn't pull on the mouth-piece though the field of vision is 'slightly' less than normal, especialy when looking down. Allso equalising isn't easy!! __________________ If it aint broke....don't fix it, and if it is.............well......get another one! divechief2000@hotmail.com
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7th November 2006, 19:53	#4 (permalink)
Mark Y New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 4	Re: Full Face Masks and Inspiration What type of scubapro FFM do you use? Was it easy to modify for the Inspiration? Any other comments on FFM would be greatly appreciated! __________________ You have the right to remain silent...
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7th November 2006, 20:13	#5 (permalink)
chunter I like diving Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Classic Kiss Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Honolulu Posts: 479	Re: Full Face Masks and Inspiration I agree with Rob on the SuperMask. While it is easy to adapt to CCR use, and allows for fairly easy bailout via the "pod" mouthpiece, I have found it to be a cumbersome piece of equipment. This is especially true on units with over-the-shoulder counterlungs because the mask prohibits your head from turning to the side. Communications work well with these, but I'd only use them where surface comms were essential. Field of vision also sucks. It feels like you are inside a submarine. As far as the FFM goes with use on the Inspiration, it is very difficult. Closing the DSV is clumsy. It does work better with the KISS OC/DSV. I'd rather duct-tape my mouthpiece to my face to prevent drowning in a CNS fit. Aloha, Charlie Quote: (Originally Posted by diverrob) I have not used it with the inspo but I did a test dive with the Super Mask on my KISS Dolphin yesterday. My overall impressions were not that great, the field of vision throught the mask was poor at best and I found it difficult to equalize my ears (had to use 2 hands). I also did not like the way the mouthpiece wanted to pull away from my mouth. This forced me to hold it tighter in my mouth and gave me some discomfort during the short dive. I will be looking for a different FFM in the future. Rob Last edited by chunter : 7th November 2006 at 20:16.
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8th November 2006, 10:12	#6 (permalink)
Ben Field CK+Shearwater Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 1,571	Re: Full Face Masks and Inspiration Quote: (Originally Posted by chunter) I'd rather duct-tape my mouthpiece to my face to prevent drowning in a CNS fit. Any chance we could have "Quote of the day" on the Home page? I nominate this for the first one __________________ www.hugsac.org.uk Beware Fridge Suck
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8th November 2006, 14:20	#7 (permalink)
Mark Y New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 4	Re: Full Face Masks and Inspiration Quote: (Originally Posted by chunter) I'd rather duct-tape my mouthpiece to my face to prevent drowning in a CNS fit. Aloha, Charlie Hah! I appreciate your input! BTW - What color duct-tape do you recommend? __________________ You have the right to remain silent...
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10th November 2006, 22:39	#8 (permalink)
chunter I like diving Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Classic Kiss Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Honolulu Posts: 479	Re: Full Face Masks and Inspiration Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Y) Hah! I appreciate your input! BTW - What color duct-tape do you recommend? I always use black...more stealthy. The barracudas also attack the silver.
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