Kirby Morgan m48 mask with NATO pod

JonnyB · 2nd March 2006, 15:45

Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie)

Not compared to a OC/CC DSV the divematics is $750 + I beleive

Exactly and this one is priced the same...
I have tried to call Tracey over the past few days to get info in he can make me an OC/CC DSV for this mask. Without luck and then i found that i can get the NATO pod so why not...

/Jonny

diverklondike · 2nd March 2006, 15:50

There are a couple pictures about 3/4 of the way down the page on this link...

http://www.therebreathersite.nl/insp...n_specials.htm

Dive Safe..

Mark

nskdrs · 2nd March 2006, 15:50

I have few more questions after as I looked up the pics in the gallery:

-is it possible to order spare mushroom-valves?

- I'm missing info on location, size, material of the musshroom-valves

- How does the valve turn in cold waters?

THX,
Jan

nskdrs · 2nd March 2006, 16:30

also, did some tests for field-of-vision with KM48 today, compared to frameless masks prosub stealth and oceanic mini shadow...

one looses approx 5 degrees left and right,
quite restrictive when looking down, maybe 20-30 degrees,
could be restrictive as diver wants to look down his own body or checking a HUD
just
m2c
cheers

***caveseeker7*** · 2nd March 2006, 17:08

Jonny, the rebreather pod comes in two version, either with a DSV or with a BOV that has a Kirby-Morgan 2nd stage. If it is the 2nd stage that is restricted are you sure you'll get that version, not the DSV version.

The main difference between the OC and Rebreather pod are ratchets above the bellows that allow the pod to be in a fixed position. Either close with the diver using the bite piece or pulled out for use with comms. They also eliminate the wobble (only used the OC pod, underwater it was negligible, on the surface it was there ... may be more pronounced with the addition of corrugated hoses, Mike will know).

In the picture you can see the stock Rebreather pod, the connectors have dual O-rings.
Usually you'll need adapters to fit them to connectors of the Rebreather.
Are those available, too, and for what rebreathers?
Mike, IIRC uses his YBOD connectors on the MK15.5
Below a pic with PRISM connectors.

Last but not least, a picture of me goofing around with the OC version.
You can see the lack of the dual stabilizer/ratchet bars on top.

JonnyB · 2nd March 2006, 17:31

Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7)

Jonny, the rebreather pod comes in two version, either with a DSV or with a BOV that has a Kirby-Morgan 2nd stage. If it is the 2nd stage that is restricted are you sure you'll get that version, not the DSV version.

The main difference between the OC and Rebreather pod are ratchets above the bellows that allow the pod to be in a fixed position. Either close with the diver using the bite piece or pulled out for use with comms. They also eliminate the wobble (only used the OC pod, underwater it was negligible, on the surface it was there ... may be more pronounced with the addition of corrugated hoses, Mike will know).

In the picture you can see the stock Rebreather pod, the connectors have dual O-rings.
Usually you'll need adapters to fit them to connectors of the Rebreather.
Are those available, too, and for what rebreathers?
Mike, IIRC uses his YBOD connectors on the MK15.5
Below a pic with PRISM connectors.

Last but not least, a picture of me goofing around with the OC version.
You can see the lack of the dual stabilizer/ratchet bars on top.

Hey Stefan, what i was offered was two different sollutions.
1. To get the m48 mask with the standard OC scubapod (last picture) and on that one remove the regulator and attach the DSV of the Meg. Which i was told will fit, though the hoses have a tendency to twist.
2. To purchase the m48 mask with the NATO pod like the two first pictures you sent. If you look at the first picture you will see that there is a OC regulator, that is the regulator i was talking about, that is restricted. It is made for the military. I dont know the specs but i can imagine it is made some non magnetic material. So what you would get is the pod without that regulator and you can attach some other regulator to it. I will attach my ATX200 which will fit. I was also told that scubapro and poseidons will fit. Also the connector Stefan was talking about, yet you will be able to get them too, i have the price for those of you that have pm'd me, and its about 80USD extra charge over the mask and or pod.

You are able to buy
only mask
only NATO pod
only scuba pod
only connectors
Or any combination above, i will buy a mask with scubapod, and get the NATO pod on top of that, i will connect the spare scubapod then to my offboard regulator, so that if i need to bailout, i will disconnect the nato pod, put in offboard regulator and then connect it to the fullface mask. I will have the OC/CC DSV (BOV) regulator connected to my onboard, just to be able to get fast sanity breaths, in case of very deep dives, i can have it on any offboard gas if i want as well. I am also looking into have a switch block as well, with some kind of wet contacts, so i can which gases during the dive...

Also for those of you who have asked me if this is a one time deal, no it is not, i am in contact with a reseller.

kind regards
Jonny

Drmike · 3rd March 2006, 00:43

Quote: (Originally Posted by JonnyB)

To purchase the m48 mask with the NATO pod like the two first pictures you sent. If you look at the first picture you will see that there is a OC regulator, that is the regulator i was talking about, that is restricted. It is made for the military. I dont know the specs but i can imagine it is made some non magnetic material. So what you would get is the pod without that regulator and you can attach some other regulator to it. I will attach my ATX200 which will fit.

Coming out of lurk mode for a moment whilst waiting for my flight:

It wont fit - at least not without some serious modification (new body made up for the ATX200) If you built some kind of an adapter plate and used the original ATX200 body it sits too low down.

Instead of a mouthbite the KM48 2nd stage has a flat connecting face with two raised sides that is secured to the NATO pod with two bolts.

The KM48 2nd stage is tiny (hard to see that in the pics but its much smaller than a normal 2nd stage)

Im sure it can be done - but its not going to be easy or simple.

It will either involve making a whole new 2nd stage body or some serious bastardisation of the original.

Now im off to get wet.

silent running · 3rd March 2006, 04:27

Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7)

Below a pic with PRISM connectors.

Hey Stefan, whose taxi yellow Prism FFM rig is that? What about the 2nd stage on the BOV, what make and is it any good at depth?

JonnyB · 3rd March 2006, 05:59

Quote: (Originally Posted by Drmike)

Coming out of lurk mode for a moment whilst waiting for my flight:

It wont fit - at least not without some serious modification (new body made up for the ATX200) If you built some kind of an adapter plate and used the original ATX200 body it sits too low down.

Instead of a mouthbite the KM48 2nd stage has a flat connecting face with two raised sides that is secured to the NATO pod with two bolts.

The KM48 2nd stage is tiny (hard to see that in the pics but its much smaller than a normal 2nd stage)

Im sure it can be done - but its not going to be easy or simple.

It will either involve making a whole new 2nd stage body or some serious bastardisation of the original.

Now im off to get wet.

Well the information i got was that it will fit perfectly, without any modification, i have not seen it myself. But this is from Kirby Morgan dealer that actually is using the ATX200 himself on the NATO pod.
We will have to investigate this further.

/Jonny

***caveseeker7*** · 3rd March 2006, 16:10

Quote: (Originally Posted by silent running)

Hey Stefan, whose taxi yellow Prism FFM rig is that? What about the 2nd stage on the BOV, what make and is it any good at depth?

The frame is orange, not yellow, and belongs to SMI.
Pete likes those nice colors because no one ever wants to steal them.
His fins, mask etc are all hot pink, hence I asume pink is not a K-M option.
The 2nd stage is from Kirby-Morgan.

Johnny, thanks for the reply. I had the same thought as Mike, have a look at the profile shot of the Rebreather pod. The K-M second stage housing is fit to the pod, not just a bolt on.

Best ask your supplier for a picture of his mask with the Apeks fitted to see what you're getting into.

2nd March 2006, 15:45	#11 (permalink)
JonnyB Johnny The Hatch Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Titan Other CCR Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Megalodon Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Other CCR Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweden (Stockholm)/Cyprus(Ayia Napa) Posts: 970	Re: Kirby Morgan m48 mask with NATO pod Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie) Not compared to a OC/CC DSV the divematics is $750 + I beleive Exactly and this one is priced the same... I have tried to call Tracey over the past few days to get info in he can make me an OC/CC DSV for this mask. Without luck and then i found that i can get the NATO pod so why not... /Jonny __________________ A quote from Crazyduck - In remembering our own Rob Davies. "Outbound flight 777 heavy you are cleared for flight Due west into that warm red Texas sunset You have angels on your wings and divers memories on your six." Rest In Peace http://www.divetekcyprus.com http://www.diveccr.com
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2nd March 2006, 15:50	#12 (permalink)
diverklondike Just one of the Peasants Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,613	Re: Kirby Morgan m48 mask with NATO pod There are a couple pictures about 3/4 of the way down the page on this link... http://www.therebreathersite.nl/insp...n_specials.htm Dive Safe.. Mark
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2nd March 2006, 15:50	#13 (permalink)
nskdrs New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Not Bought Yet Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: germany Posts: 98	Re: Kirby Morgan m48 mask with NATO pod I have few more questions after as I looked up the pics in the gallery: -is it possible to order spare mushroom-valves? - I'm missing info on location, size, material of the musshroom-valves - How does the valve turn in cold waters? THX, Jan
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2nd March 2006, 16:30	#14 (permalink)
nskdrs New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Not Bought Yet Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: germany Posts: 98	Re: Kirby Morgan m48 mask with NATO pod also, did some tests for field-of-vision with KM48 today, compared to frameless masks prosub stealth and oceanic mini shadow... one looses approx 5 degrees left and right, quite restrictive when looking down, maybe 20-30 degrees, could be restrictive as diver wants to look down his own body or checking a HUD just m2c cheers
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2nd March 2006, 17:31	#16 (permalink)
JonnyB Johnny The Hatch Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Titan Other CCR Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Megalodon Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Other CCR Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweden (Stockholm)/Cyprus(Ayia Napa) Posts: 970	Re: Kirby Morgan m48 mask with NATO pod Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7) Jonny, the rebreather pod comes in two version, either with a DSV or with a BOV that has a Kirby-Morgan 2nd stage. If it is the 2nd stage that is restricted are you sure you'll get that version, not the DSV version. The main difference between the OC and Rebreather pod are ratchets above the bellows that allow the pod to be in a fixed position. Either close with the diver using the bite piece or pulled out for use with comms. They also eliminate the wobble (only used the OC pod, underwater it was negligible, on the surface it was there ... may be more pronounced with the addition of corrugated hoses, Mike will know). In the picture you can see the stock Rebreather pod, the connectors have dual O-rings. Usually you'll need adapters to fit them to connectors of the Rebreather. Are those available, too, and for what rebreathers? Mike, IIRC uses his YBOD connectors on the MK15.5 Below a pic with PRISM connectors. Last but not least, a picture of me goofing around with the OC version. You can see the lack of the dual stabilizer/ratchet bars on top. Hey Stefan, what i was offered was two different sollutions. 1. To get the m48 mask with the standard OC scubapod (last picture) and on that one remove the regulator and attach the DSV of the Meg. Which i was told will fit, though the hoses have a tendency to twist. 2. To purchase the m48 mask with the NATO pod like the two first pictures you sent. If you look at the first picture you will see that there is a OC regulator, that is the regulator i was talking about, that is restricted. It is made for the military. I dont know the specs but i can imagine it is made some non magnetic material. So what you would get is the pod without that regulator and you can attach some other regulator to it. I will attach my ATX200 which will fit. I was also told that scubapro and poseidons will fit. Also the connector Stefan was talking about, yet you will be able to get them too, i have the price for those of you that have pm'd me, and its about 80USD extra charge over the mask and or pod. You are able to buy only mask only NATO pod only scuba pod only connectors Or any combination above, i will buy a mask with scubapod, and get the NATO pod on top of that, i will connect the spare scubapod then to my offboard regulator, so that if i need to bailout, i will disconnect the nato pod, put in offboard regulator and then connect it to the fullface mask. I will have the OC/CC DSV (BOV) regulator connected to my onboard, just to be able to get fast sanity breaths, in case of very deep dives, i can have it on any offboard gas if i want as well. I am also looking into have a switch block as well, with some kind of wet contacts, so i can which gases during the dive... Also for those of you who have asked me if this is a one time deal, no it is not, i am in contact with a reseller. kind regards Jonny __________________ A quote from Crazyduck - In remembering our own Rob Davies. "Outbound flight 777 heavy you are cleared for flight Due west into that warm red Texas sunset You have angels on your wings and divers memories on your six." Rest In Peace http://www.divetekcyprus.com http://www.diveccr.com
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3rd March 2006, 00:43	#17 (permalink)
Drmike Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Ouroboros Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,325	Re: Kirby Morgan m48 mask with NATO pod Quote: (Originally Posted by JonnyB) To purchase the m48 mask with the NATO pod like the two first pictures you sent. If you look at the first picture you will see that there is a OC regulator, that is the regulator i was talking about, that is restricted. It is made for the military. I dont know the specs but i can imagine it is made some non magnetic material. So what you would get is the pod without that regulator and you can attach some other regulator to it. I will attach my ATX200 which will fit. Coming out of lurk mode for a moment whilst waiting for my flight: It wont fit - at least not without some serious modification (new body made up for the ATX200) If you built some kind of an adapter plate and used the original ATX200 body it sits too low down. Instead of a mouthbite the KM48 2nd stage has a flat connecting face with two raised sides that is secured to the NATO pod with two bolts. The KM48 2nd stage is tiny (hard to see that in the pics but its much smaller than a normal 2nd stage) Im sure it can be done - but its not going to be easy or simple. It will either involve making a whole new 2nd stage body or some serious bastardisation of the original. Now im off to get wet. __________________ Cave diving is a sport Wreck diving is a sport Diving in general is a sport 'Rebreather diving' is not a sport its the delusional obsession with a highly dangerous and often inappropriate piece of equipment
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3rd March 2006, 04:27	#18 (permalink)
silent running Mature mouth breather Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: U.S.A. Brooklyn, New York Posts: 1,832	Re: Kirby Morgan m48 mask with NATO pod Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7) Below a pic with PRISM connectors. Hey Stefan, whose taxi yellow Prism FFM rig is that? What about the 2nd stage on the BOV, what make and is it any good at depth?
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3rd March 2006, 05:59	#19 (permalink)
JonnyB Johnny The Hatch Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Titan Other CCR Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Megalodon Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Other CCR Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweden (Stockholm)/Cyprus(Ayia Napa) Posts: 970	Re: Kirby Morgan m48 mask with NATO pod Quote: (Originally Posted by Drmike) Coming out of lurk mode for a moment whilst waiting for my flight: It wont fit - at least not without some serious modification (new body made up for the ATX200) If you built some kind of an adapter plate and used the original ATX200 body it sits too low down. Instead of a mouthbite the KM48 2nd stage has a flat connecting face with two raised sides that is secured to the NATO pod with two bolts. The KM48 2nd stage is tiny (hard to see that in the pics but its much smaller than a normal 2nd stage) Im sure it can be done - but its not going to be easy or simple. It will either involve making a whole new 2nd stage body or some serious bastardisation of the original. Now im off to get wet. Well the information i got was that it will fit perfectly, without any modification, i have not seen it myself. But this is from Kirby Morgan dealer that actually is using the ATX200 himself on the NATO pod. We will have to investigate this further. /Jonny __________________ A quote from Crazyduck - In remembering our own Rob Davies. "Outbound flight 777 heavy you are cleared for flight Due west into that warm red Texas sunset You have angels on your wings and divers memories on your six." Rest In Peace http://www.divetekcyprus.com http://www.diveccr.com
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3rd March 2006, 16:10	#20 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,451	Re: Kirby Morgan m48 mask with NATO pod Quote: (Originally Posted by silent running) Hey Stefan, whose taxi yellow Prism FFM rig is that? What about the 2nd stage on the BOV, what make and is it any good at depth? The frame is orange, not yellow, and belongs to SMI. Pete likes those nice colors because no one ever wants to steal them. His fins, mask etc are all hot pink, hence I asume pink is not a K-M option. The 2nd stage is from Kirby-Morgan. Johnny, thanks for the reply. I had the same thought as Mike, have a look at the profile shot of the Rebreather pod. The K-M second stage housing is fit to the pod, not just a bolt on. Best ask your supplier for a picture of his mask with the Apeks fitted to see what you're getting into. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.!"
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