Drager Panorama FFM questions

mempilot · 26th April 2008, 20:22

Are you guys using a second stage ported to the mask? Would this help 'pressurize' the mask? Or, is it not needed unless you choose to nasal bailout?

Thanks,

Eric

osiris · 27th April 2008, 09:32

Quote: (Originally Posted by womble)

Cheers Steve, purge tension seems ok to me. As mentioned above gently holding the mask as you clear helps to ensure unwanted water goes out through the purge, not around the skirt.

I just use spit, and it seems to do the trick. Havent toothpasted the inside yet, could a more experienced user of the mask advise if its necessary??

Cheers

If straps are done up correctly, should not be necessary to hold the masks to purge - A steady blow from the nose until with practise you can stop just before blowing bubbles is all that is needed. Tensioning straps in the right order is critical - Drager make a song and dance about it in the manwell. Being half Cherman, naturally I followed these orders and lo and behold never leaked ever - so far - even after several mask off / B/out drills and back again.

Bit wiesrd when ascending at first feels like mask wants blow off - once again (after the first few goes hanging on to mask like grim death) s good blow through the nose and Mr Boyle is satsified . Works for me.
Drager claim they put a film on the mask that precludes fogging. Must be true as on the times I forgot to spit, it never fogged up. Might wear off with time though. Rinsing with fresh water seems to be the way to go.

Lancer4545 · 27th April 2008, 09:42

Quote: (Originally Posted by osiris)

Drager claim they put a film on the mask that precludes fogging. Must be true as on the times I forgot to spit, it never fogged up. Might wear off with time though. Rinsing with fresh water seems to be the way to go.

I had a reply from Drager when I found stains on the inside of the lens caused when I had it packed away and the straps contacted the inside of the lens. I now have a piece of soft cloth inside the mask to stop this ever happening again.......YOU'VE BEEN WARNED!!!!

Drager clearly stated the lens has an anti fog/anti scratch coating on the inside and the stains cannot be removed...otherwise it will remove the coating ruining the lens.

Funny thing now is the lens foggs up directly over the marks......so obviously what they say is correct.

Regards,

Lance

osiris · 27th April 2008, 10:20

Quote: (Originally Posted by Lancer4545)

I

Drager clearly stated the lens has an anti fog/anti scratch coating on the inside and the stains cannot be removed...otherwise it will remove the coating ruining the lens.

Lance

And the price of new lens is EU39.95 according to http://www.watersafetyshop.com/panor...l........Great mask though.

26th April 2008, 20:22	#11 (permalink)
mempilot What is this..terrafirma? Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Posts: 1,178	Re: Drager Panorama FFM questions Are you guys using a second stage ported to the mask? Would this help 'pressurize' the mask? Or, is it not needed unless you choose to nasal bailout? Thanks, Eric __________________ MEM "Da Pilot" Black holes are where God divided by zero. "If at first you don't succeed, don't dive silent." "Would you mind not shooting at the thermo-nuclear weapons." ~ Vic Deakins "Donkey's kill more people annually than plane crashes."
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27th April 2008, 09:32	#12 (permalink)
osiris Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Auckland Posts: 230	Re: Drager Panorama FFM questions Quote: (Originally Posted by womble) Cheers Steve, purge tension seems ok to me. As mentioned above gently holding the mask as you clear helps to ensure unwanted water goes out through the purge, not around the skirt. I just use spit, and it seems to do the trick. Havent toothpasted the inside yet, could a more experienced user of the mask advise if its necessary?? Cheers If straps are done up correctly, should not be necessary to hold the masks to purge - A steady blow from the nose until with practise you can stop just before blowing bubbles is all that is needed. Tensioning straps in the right order is critical - Drager make a song and dance about it in the manwell. Being half Cherman, naturally I followed these orders and lo and behold never leaked ever - so far - even after several mask off / B/out drills and back again. Bit wiesrd when ascending at first feels like mask wants blow off - once again (after the first few goes hanging on to mask like grim death) s good blow through the nose and Mr Boyle is satsified . Works for me. Drager claim they put a film on the mask that precludes fogging. Must be true as on the times I forgot to spit, it never fogged up. Might wear off with time though. Rinsing with fresh water seems to be the way to go.
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27th April 2008, 09:42	#13 (permalink)
Lancer4545 Closed Circuit Divers Aus Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cairns QLD Australia Posts: 573	Re: Drager Panorama FFM questions Quote: (Originally Posted by osiris) Drager claim they put a film on the mask that precludes fogging. Must be true as on the times I forgot to spit, it never fogged up. Might wear off with time though. Rinsing with fresh water seems to be the way to go. I had a reply from Drager when I found stains on the inside of the lens caused when I had it packed away and the straps contacted the inside of the lens. I now have a piece of soft cloth inside the mask to stop this ever happening again.......YOU'VE BEEN WARNED!!!! Drager clearly stated the lens has an anti fog/anti scratch coating on the inside and the stains cannot be removed...otherwise it will remove the coating ruining the lens. Funny thing now is the lens foggs up directly over the marks......so obviously what they say is correct. Regards, Lance __________________ You can run but you can't hide! ISC Appointed Megalodon Dealer for East Australia http://www.closedcircuitdivers.com.au info@closedcircuitdivers.com.au
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27th April 2008, 10:20	#14 (permalink)
osiris Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Auckland Posts: 230	Re: Drager Panorama FFM questions Quote: (Originally Posted by Lancer4545) I Drager clearly stated the lens has an anti fog/anti scratch coating on the inside and the stains cannot be removed...otherwise it will remove the coating ruining the lens. Lance And the price of new lens is EU39.95 according to http://www.watersafetyshop.com/panor...l........Great mask though.
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