some feedback on my Drager FFM with Meg..

tecdivertraining · 7th November 2007, 03:16

Quote: (Originally Posted by Abbo)

I can't use contacts, unfortunately.

Hi Nick

Just a thought

Its possible to get some custom lenses made here in thailand and glue them inplace, thailand is known for its cheep optics.

Drmike · 7th November 2007, 03:59

Matt, You asked about drinking bag attachment for the mask,

heres what Im using.

plug in and twist to open. If I can get to the workshop today Ill knock one up for you for next week - or you can use this one. Personally I like my evian fresh and straight out the cave

jknox · 7th November 2007, 04:27

Quote: (Originally Posted by Drmike)

plug in and twist to open. If I can get to the workshop today Ill knock one up for you for next week - or you can use this one. Personally I like my evian fresh and straight out the cave

Matt, Just be careful what else he tries to "plug in" to your mask on deco or after

Drmike · 7th November 2007, 04:36

Quote: (Originally Posted by jknox)

Matt, Just be careful what else he tries to "plug in" to your mask on deco or after

you never complain before

What is so unatural about 2 men dressed from head to foot in black rubber, wearing rubber face masks and spending hours alone together in the dark sticking things in each others P-ports?

tecdivertraining · 7th November 2007, 05:19

Quote: (Originally Posted by jknox)

Matt, Just be careful what else he tries to "plug in" to your mask on deco or after

are you speaking from experience

you should come over for the trip is going to be good me thinks

jknox · 7th November 2007, 05:31

Quote: (Originally Posted by tecdivertraining)

are you speaking from experience

you should come over for the trip is going to be good me thinks

I would if I could but too many Uncle Vidar trips, I only have 1 vacation day left for this year

Some of us actually have to work here in singapore...

Frankie Pellegrino · 7th November 2007, 11:21

Dear Matt
I’m very interested in making the switch to a FFM on a rebreather. I have hundreds if not thousand of hours on a OC AGA mask. I also teach divers how to dive/clear/ buddy breath/and bail out off a AGA…etc. I very interested to here your thoughts or any bodies on how difficult it is to clear a flooded Drager FFM on a CCR? Also you wrote changing out your regs / DSV from “P” ports “no water gets in” is that because you tilt your head down (like a upside down cup) so water won’t enter the mask. How hard is it to vent the loop as you ascend? I know there’s a OPV valve in the mask. Do you have to tilt/move it to allow gas to escape. Or is it spring loaded which will vent on it’s own?
Frankie

JonnyB · 7th November 2007, 11:39

Quote: (Originally Posted by Drmike)

Matt, You asked about drinking bag attachment for the mask,

heres what Im using.

plug in and twist to open. If I can get to the workshop today Ill knock one up for you for next week - or you can use this one. Personally I like my evian fresh and straight out the cave

Hi Mike
if you make some, i would be happy to get one from you.

/Jonny

tecdivertraining · 7th November 2007, 23:49

Quote: (Originally Posted by Frankie Pellegrino)

Dear Matt
I’m very interested in making the switch to a FFM on a rebreather. I have hundreds if not thousand of hours on a OC AGA mask. I also teach divers how to dive/clear/ buddy breath/and bail out off a AGA…etc. I very interested to here your thoughts or any bodies on how difficult it is to clear a flooded Drager FFM on a CCR? Also you wrote changing out your regs / DSV from “P” ports “no water gets in” is that because you tilt your head down (like a upside down cup) so water won’t enter the mask. How hard is it to vent the loop as you ascend? I know there’s a OPV valve in the mask. Do you have to tilt/move it to allow gas to escape. Or is it spring loaded which will vent on it’s own?
Frankie

Hi Frankie

the mask is super easy to clear, that is if you can get any water in the mask, If you use the combined apeks second stage plmbed in the mask is then under positive pressure same like the arga I believe and difficult to flood. If you isolate the reg then you can flood it a little easer and its still really easy to clear, just look up and exhale through your nose and the water drains from the relief valve on the bottom of the mask. it highlights the need to clean and check this valve often to ensure it working operation in the manual so i little maintenance should keep like new. the mask has an internal bite mouthpiece so not water gets into the loop so long as you seal you lips

If the mask pressure increases to much say from venting the loop on accent via the nose into the mask it vents through the second stage avoiding the mask being pulled of your face and breaking seal.

Hope that answers your questions

Frankie Pellegrino · 7th November 2007, 23:57

Hope that answers your questions[/quote]
Thank you. Your answers were very informative. Looks like this winter my head and face are going to stay dry when playing with my rebreather.
Cheers Frankie

7th November 2007, 03:16	#11 (permalink)
tecdivertraining RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Ouroboros Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Dolphin Join Date: May 2005 Location: Phuket, Thailand Posts: 431	Re: some feedback on my Drager FFM with Meg.. Quote: (Originally Posted by Abbo) I can't use contacts, unfortunately. Hi Nick Just a thought Its possible to get some custom lenses made here in thailand and glue them inplace, thailand is known for its cheep optics. __________________ Mathew Partridge Technical Director Pro-Tech Dive College www.protechdivers.com www.tech-ccr.com
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7th November 2007, 04:27	#13 (permalink)
jknox New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 37	Re: some feedback on my Drager FFM with Meg.. Quote: (Originally Posted by Drmike) plug in and twist to open. If I can get to the workshop today Ill knock one up for you for next week - or you can use this one. Personally I like my evian fresh and straight out the cave Matt, Just be careful what else he tries to "plug in" to your mask on deco or after __________________ That's not America! That's not even Mexico...
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7th November 2007, 04:36	#14 (permalink)
Drmike Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Ouroboros Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,157	Re: some feedback on my Drager FFM with Meg.. Quote: (Originally Posted by jknox) Matt, Just be careful what else he tries to "plug in" to your mask on deco or after you never complain before What is so unatural about 2 men dressed from head to foot in black rubber, wearing rubber face masks and spending hours alone together in the dark sticking things in each others P-ports? __________________ Cave diving is a sport Wreck diving is a sport Diving in general is a sport 'Rebreather diving' is not a sport its the delusional obsession with a highly dangerous and often inappropriate piece of equipment
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7th November 2007, 05:19	#15 (permalink)
tecdivertraining RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Ouroboros Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Dolphin Join Date: May 2005 Location: Phuket, Thailand Posts: 431	Re: some feedback on my Drager FFM with Meg.. Quote: (Originally Posted by jknox) Matt, Just be careful what else he tries to "plug in" to your mask on deco or after are you speaking from experience you should come over for the trip is going to be good me thinks __________________ Mathew Partridge Technical Director Pro-Tech Dive College www.protechdivers.com www.tech-ccr.com
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7th November 2007, 05:31	#16 (permalink)
jknox New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 37	Re: some feedback on my Drager FFM with Meg.. Quote: (Originally Posted by tecdivertraining) are you speaking from experience you should come over for the trip is going to be good me thinks I would if I could but too many Uncle Vidar trips, I only have 1 vacation day left for this year Some of us actually have to work here in singapore... __________________ That's not America! That's not even Mexico...
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7th November 2007, 11:21	#17 (permalink)
Frankie Pellegrino Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NYC New York Posts: 136	Re: some feedback on my Drager FFM with Meg.. Dear Matt I’m very interested in making the switch to a FFM on a rebreather. I have hundreds if not thousand of hours on a OC AGA mask. I also teach divers how to dive/clear/ buddy breath/and bail out off a AGA…etc. I very interested to here your thoughts or any bodies on how difficult it is to clear a flooded Drager FFM on a CCR? Also you wrote changing out your regs / DSV from “P” ports “no water gets in” is that because you tilt your head down (like a upside down cup) so water won’t enter the mask. How hard is it to vent the loop as you ascend? I know there’s a OPV valve in the mask. Do you have to tilt/move it to allow gas to escape. Or is it spring loaded which will vent on it’s own? Frankie
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7th November 2007, 11:39	#18 (permalink)
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7th November 2007, 23:49	#19 (permalink)
tecdivertraining RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Ouroboros Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Dolphin Join Date: May 2005 Location: Phuket, Thailand Posts: 431	Re: some feedback on my Drager FFM with Meg.. Quote: (Originally Posted by Frankie Pellegrino) Dear Matt I’m very interested in making the switch to a FFM on a rebreather. I have hundreds if not thousand of hours on a OC AGA mask. I also teach divers how to dive/clear/ buddy breath/and bail out off a AGA…etc. I very interested to here your thoughts or any bodies on how difficult it is to clear a flooded Drager FFM on a CCR? Also you wrote changing out your regs / DSV from “P” ports “no water gets in” is that because you tilt your head down (like a upside down cup) so water won’t enter the mask. How hard is it to vent the loop as you ascend? I know there’s a OPV valve in the mask. Do you have to tilt/move it to allow gas to escape. Or is it spring loaded which will vent on it’s own? Frankie Hi Frankie the mask is super easy to clear, that is if you can get any water in the mask, If you use the combined apeks second stage plmbed in the mask is then under positive pressure same like the arga I believe and difficult to flood. If you isolate the reg then you can flood it a little easer and its still really easy to clear, just look up and exhale through your nose and the water drains from the relief valve on the bottom of the mask. it highlights the need to clean and check this valve often to ensure it working operation in the manual so i little maintenance should keep like new. the mask has an internal bite mouthpiece so not water gets into the loop so long as you seal you lips If the mask pressure increases to much say from venting the loop on accent via the nose into the mask it vents through the second stage avoiding the mask being pulled of your face and breaking seal. Hope that answers your questions __________________ Mathew Partridge Technical Director Pro-Tech Dive College www.protechdivers.com www.tech-ccr.com
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7th November 2007, 23:57	#20 (permalink)
Frankie Pellegrino Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NYC New York Posts: 136	Re: some feedback on my Drager FFM with Meg.. Hope that answers your questions[/quote] Thank you. Your answers were very informative. Looks like this winter my head and face are going to stay dry when playing with my rebreather. Cheers Frankie
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