FFM's are cool but are they comfortable?

Drmike · 28th August 2007, 01:21

Quote: (Originally Posted by Micko)

Yes our aim was to entertain as we did glad you enjoyed...

have to say that was one of the best trips Ive had on the Empress- good company lots of laughs and great diving

Micko · 28th August 2007, 01:26

Looking foward to another soon mate

Chris · 28th August 2007, 03:55

Mike are these the ones you are after ?

Cheers
Chriso

Drmike · 28th August 2007, 04:22

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chris)

Mike are these the ones you are after ?

Cheers
Chriso

hehe - yup

thanks,

Normally le sabotage est caché

Abbo · 28th August 2007, 04:31

What do wearers of glasses do about FFMs? Wear the glasses inside the mask, or is it possible with some to get lenses fitted in the mask itself? Unfortunately, contact lenses do not agree with me..

teomannaskali · 28th August 2007, 08:17

Any problems view wise?

I suppose you could put a hud inside the mask... Entering from the spare P port

Teoman

***Decodiver*** · 28th August 2007, 09:46

Quote: (Originally Posted by silent running)

Anybody using an FFM have a beard?

I have a beard and use a Draeger Panorama from time to time.

No problems for me, but I do use a hood, I think Ron Micjan uses one without a hood and he has a beard too.....

Cheers,

Dave Cooper.

kkcheo · 29th August 2007, 01:52

Hi
For a person not familiar with the use of FFM, do you recommend practicing on OC before using it on a CCR?

What does everyone think?

Thanks
-Keng

RonMicjan · 29th August 2007, 04:14

Have been diving the draeger panarama for a couple years now and its extremely comfortable, way more so that a standard mask for me, no jaw fatigue on long dives, I have a lower half beard and moustache and no longer have to shave the strip under my nose to seal properly. the draeger also doesnt leak like a normal mask does for me. Mask is quite warm also, I use in in warm water w/o a hood and in cold water with a latex dry hood and beanie cap under the hood. I actually come out of the water with the beanie and what little hair I have still dry. I like the latex hood better than neoprene with the FFM.

there are some retraining issues with the mask, make sure you do some bailout drills and think everything through before you do any serious diving with the FFM. Its a trick to R and R the mask during balout drills. Leon beat the crap out of me on a cold water dive and drilled me on mask failure and swapping OC gasses. matt in mexico put me through the gauntlet during a cave course also when I insisted on doing the whole cave course on the FFM.

dont take this as a minor gear change, its a major reconfiguration and training is a requirement.

kkcheo · 29th August 2007, 11:14

Makes perfect sense Cap'n. I have tried the Draeger on OC and didn't like the flutter from escaping gas during ascent as the gas inside the mask expanded. Yes, it takes training and lots of practice dives in a controlled environment to get used to the mask.

Cheers
-K.

Quote: (Originally Posted by RonMicjan)

there are some retraining issues with the mask, make sure you do some bailout drills and think everything through before you do any serious diving with the FFM. Its a trick to R and R the mask during balout drills. Leon beat the crap out of me on a cold water dive and drilled me on mask failure and swapping OC gasses. matt in mexico put me through the gauntlet during a cave course also when I insisted on doing the whole cave course on the FFM.

dont take this as a minor gear change, its a major reconfiguration and training is a requirement.

28th August 2007, 01:21	#21 (permalink)
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28th August 2007, 01:26	#22 (permalink)
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*Decodiver* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 2,181	Re: FFM's are cool but are they comfortable? Quote: (Originally Posted by silent running) Anybody using an FFM have a beard? I have a beard and use a Draeger Panorama from time to time. No problems for me, but I do use a hood, I think Ron Micjan uses one without a hood and he has a beard too..... Cheers, Dave Cooper. __________________ CCR/OC Trimix Instructor Trainer CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/COPIS-Megalodon/KISS/Sport KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com Rebreather World Terms & Conditions
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29th August 2007, 01:52	#28 (permalink)
kkcheo New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Working in Laos diving in Thailand Posts: 69	Re: FFM's are cool but are they comfortable? Hi For a person not familiar with the use of FFM, do you recommend practicing on OC before using it on a CCR? What does everyone think? Thanks -Keng
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29th August 2007, 04:14	#29 (permalink)
RonMicjan Cap Ron scourge of the NW Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cape Disapointment, The Graveyard of the Pacific Posts: 1,100	Re: FFM's are cool but are they comfortable? Have been diving the draeger panarama for a couple years now and its extremely comfortable, way more so that a standard mask for me, no jaw fatigue on long dives, I have a lower half beard and moustache and no longer have to shave the strip under my nose to seal properly. the draeger also doesnt leak like a normal mask does for me. Mask is quite warm also, I use in in warm water w/o a hood and in cold water with a latex dry hood and beanie cap under the hood. I actually come out of the water with the beanie and what little hair I have still dry. I like the latex hood better than neoprene with the FFM. there are some retraining issues with the mask, make sure you do some bailout drills and think everything through before you do any serious diving with the FFM. Its a trick to R and R the mask during balout drills. Leon beat the crap out of me on a cold water dive and drilled me on mask failure and swapping OC gasses. matt in mexico put me through the gauntlet during a cave course also when I insisted on doing the whole cave course on the FFM. dont take this as a minor gear change, its a major reconfiguration and training is a requirement. __________________ Marine rescue, towing and salvage. Interfering with natural selection since 1983. www.tmishop.com Diving bits etc. www.seatowpdx.com The Summer Job
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29th August 2007, 11:14	#30 (permalink)
kkcheo New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Working in Laos diving in Thailand Posts: 69	Re: FFM's are cool but are they comfortable? Makes perfect sense Cap'n. I have tried the Draeger on OC and didn't like the flutter from escaping gas during ascent as the gas inside the mask expanded. Yes, it takes training and lots of practice dives in a controlled environment to get used to the mask. Cheers -K. Quote: (Originally Posted by RonMicjan) there are some retraining issues with the mask, make sure you do some bailout drills and think everything through before you do any serious diving with the FFM. Its a trick to R and R the mask during balout drills. Leon beat the crap out of me on a cold water dive and drilled me on mask failure and swapping OC gasses. matt in mexico put me through the gauntlet during a cave course also when I insisted on doing the whole cave course on the FFM. dont take this as a minor gear change, its a major reconfiguration and training is a requirement.
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