Upcoming Trip: Pre/Post DEMA Diving

mempilot · 4th November 2007, 03:33

MEMPILOT and PADIPRO are bagging the dive. We talked to a buddy at the NWS who is a tech diver and got a thumbs down. Look, even if the forecast is a little off and the seas end up being 3-5, that doesn't account for the rollers. Drift deco is out due to the number of divers. Line deco with rough seas and that many divers is dangerous. The chances of someone getting hurt is high and not worth it in these conditions. The viz will more than likely suck due to the upwellings and turb after the storm. Bottom temp will be down as well (usually following a stormy week). I'd rather it be an enjoyable experience and not just a memorable experience. If some of you decide to brave it out and go, I hope it all turns out well for you. Safe diving.

***ScubaDadMiami*** · 4th November 2007, 22:47

I am sorry that I have been without Internet due to travel since October 25. (Don't feel too sorry for me. I was cave diving and then went to DEMA and the RebreatherWorld Party). This resulted in less than ideal communication to everyone about the status of things as the weather progressed and deteriorated.

Due to the amount of time that would have been required for people coming in from out of town to drive all the way to Pompano on the chance that maybe the conditions would have barely been good enough (or should I say barely not bad enough) to make a run at the trip, we had to make our decision to call the dive by Friday afternoon in order to coordinate with the boat, the hotel, and all of the preparation that would have to be done in order to be ready for this trip. When that time arrived, after consulting with the captain and staff, we felt that conditions were not going to be right to make a try for this dive.

We tried to get the word out to everyone the best that we could under the circumstances (Thank you, Mrs. Monkey, for posting the update). We are sorry that a few were not able to get the word prior to showing at the dock. (Luckily, they were locals that did not have to drive far.)

I think that we made a wise call to play it safe rather than take a chance of someone getting seriously injured during an attempt to make this outing. Thanks to everyone for the great response. If there is enough demand, we can still get the tee shirts for everyone with "Blown Out By Hurricane Noel" overlaying the artwork. At least we will all have some kind of memory of this planned outing by a group of rebreather divers from all across the world.

**Monkey** · 4th November 2007, 22:50

I spoke to a few people that went out today...

Visability was 5 feet.. and there were big rollers. it was miserable.

debersole · 4th November 2007, 23:21

Howard, Monkey, Mrs. Monkey, etc.....

Thanks to all of you for all of your hard work in setting up the Post DEMA dive. Especially thank you for playing it safe and cancelling the dive and doing your best to get the word out to everyone. It was a great idea, but unfortunately the weather did not cooperate. Hopefully, we can do it again some time.

Doug

Skipbreather · 4th November 2007, 23:39

Howard-

The dive didn't happen, but that DEFINITELY does not negate your *excellant* effort. Your very hard work at multiple coordinations is appreciated. At the end of the day the weather gods rule and no amount of shaking one's fist at the sky will make the slightest bit of difference. Safety first in all things.

Self & dive buddy (O2Slide) are in Pensacola area w/ reservations to do serious dive on the O tomorrow. Wx looks superb!

Very best,
Ken

mriopel · 5th November 2007, 00:53

It was a good call, Howard let me know about the T's

Mike

webhead · 5th November 2007, 02:05

Palm Beach County: Five in capsized dive boat hospitalized, officials say -- South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com

Seemed like a few people had a bad day on Sat. Bummer.

Howard, thanks for your work to set this up. Looking forward to actually doing a dive with you later on. Also, let me know about the t-shirts. Be happy to paypal or write a check for them.

Tim

4th November 2007, 03:33	#151 (permalink)
mempilot What is this..terrafirma? Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Posts: 1,269	Re: Upcoming Trip: Pre/Post DEMA Diving MEMPILOT and PADIPRO are bagging the dive. We talked to a buddy at the NWS who is a tech diver and got a thumbs down. Look, even if the forecast is a little off and the seas end up being 3-5, that doesn't account for the rollers. Drift deco is out due to the number of divers. Line deco with rough seas and that many divers is dangerous. The chances of someone getting hurt is high and not worth it in these conditions. The viz will more than likely suck due to the upwellings and turb after the storm. Bottom temp will be down as well (usually following a stormy week). I'd rather it be an enjoyable experience and not just a memorable experience. If some of you decide to brave it out and go, I hope it all turns out well for you. Safe diving. __________________ MEM "Da Pilot" Black holes are where God divided by zero. "If at first you don't succeed, don't dive silent." "Would you mind not shooting at the thermo-nuclear weapons." ~ Vic Deakins "Donkey's kill more people annually than plane crashes."
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4th November 2007, 22:47	#152 (permalink)
*ScubaDadMiami* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 2,073	Re: Upcoming Trip: Pre/Post DEMA Diving I am sorry that I have been without Internet due to travel since October 25. (Don't feel too sorry for me. I was cave diving and then went to DEMA and the RebreatherWorld Party). This resulted in less than ideal communication to everyone about the status of things as the weather progressed and deteriorated. Due to the amount of time that would have been required for people coming in from out of town to drive all the way to Pompano on the chance that maybe the conditions would have barely been good enough (or should I say barely not bad enough) to make a run at the trip, we had to make our decision to call the dive by Friday afternoon in order to coordinate with the boat, the hotel, and all of the preparation that would have to be done in order to be ready for this trip. When that time arrived, after consulting with the captain and staff, we felt that conditions were not going to be right to make a try for this dive. We tried to get the word out to everyone the best that we could under the circumstances (Thank you, Mrs. Monkey, for posting the update). We are sorry that a few were not able to get the word prior to showing at the dock. (Luckily, they were locals that did not have to drive far.) I think that we made a wise call to play it safe rather than take a chance of someone getting seriously injured during an attempt to make this outing. Thanks to everyone for the great response. If there is enough demand, we can still get the tee shirts for everyone with "Blown Out By Hurricane Noel" overlaying the artwork. At least we will all have some kind of memory of this planned outing by a group of rebreather divers from all across the world. __________________ Howard Packer IANTD CCR Instructor Miami Beach, Florida CCRDiveTraining.com
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4th November 2007, 22:50	#153 (permalink)
Monkey Supporting Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lauderdale By The Sea Florida Posts: 400	Re: Upcoming Trip: Pre/Post DEMA Diving I spoke to a few people that went out today... Visability was 5 feet.. and there were big rollers. it was miserable.
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4th November 2007, 23:21	#154 (permalink)
debersole Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Dolphin Azimuth Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Dolphin Azimuth Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lakeland, Florida Posts: 211	Re: Upcoming Trip: Pre/Post DEMA Diving Howard, Monkey, Mrs. Monkey, etc..... Thanks to all of you for all of your hard work in setting up the Post DEMA dive. Especially thank you for playing it safe and cancelling the dive and doing your best to get the word out to everyone. It was a great idea, but unfortunately the weather did not cooperate. Hopefully, we can do it again some time. Doug __________________ www.debersole.com
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4th November 2007, 23:39	#155 (permalink)
Skipbreather Reads the fine print Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet MK 15.X Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago, Illinois, USA Posts: 543	Re: Upcoming Trip: Pre/Post DEMA Diving Howard- The dive didn't happen, but that DEFINITELY does not negate your excellant effort. Your very hard work at multiple coordinations is appreciated. At the end of the day the weather gods rule and no amount of shaking one's fist at the sky will make the slightest bit of difference. Safety first in all things. Self & dive buddy (O2Slide) are in Pensacola area w/ reservations to do serious dive on the O tomorrow. Wx looks superb! Very best, Ken __________________ "Entropy RULES! Enjoy the interim."
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5th November 2007, 00:53	#156 (permalink)
mriopel Sadly Missed (RIP) Current Rebreather/s: Optima Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: usa Posts: 167	Re: Upcoming Trip: Pre/Post DEMA Diving It was a good call, Howard let me know about the T's Mike
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5th November 2007, 02:05	#157 (permalink)
webhead Earning the green stuff.. Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: East central Florida Posts: 283	Re: Upcoming Trip: Pre/Post DEMA Diving Palm Beach County: Five in capsized dive boat hospitalized, officials say -- South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com Seemed like a few people had a bad day on Sat. Bummer. Howard, thanks for your work to set this up. Looking forward to actually doing a dive with you later on. Also, let me know about the t-shirts. Be happy to paypal or write a check for them. Tim __________________ "These are not the droids you are looking for.... move along" - Obi-Wan Kenobi
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