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| New Member Current Rebreather/s: Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Other SCR Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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![]() | Possible Navy MK-15 Rebreather scam Has anyone had a look at US ebay.com and seen the above Rebreather auction listing. This has the now familiar odor of a rotting carcass.
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| New Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Classic Kiss Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: France / Tanzania
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![]() ![]() | Re: Possible Navy MK-15 Rebreather scam scam, scam.... just received ! tchao thierry ************** Dear thierry_thevenet (thierry@thekairoscompany.com), The following is a notice from eBay Trust & Safety regarding: Item Number - 270076328364 Item Title - Navy MK-15 REBREATHER SCUBA DIVING GOOD CONDITION Our records show that you were a bidder or buyer of one or more of this seller's items. We recently removed this seller's active listings and suspended the seller's trading privileges. Due to privacy concerns we cannot share further details about this seller. If the seller asks you to complete this transaction outside of eBay, we strongly recommend that you do not proceed with the transaction. Transactions for items listed on eBay but then completed off of the eBay platform are not covered by buyer protection programs offered by eBay and can be highly indicative of fraud. For more information on Offers to Buy or Sell Outside of eBay, copy and past the following Help Page link into your browser: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/rfe-spam-non-ebay-sale.html. If you have already paid for this item but have not received it, you should take all possible steps to receive reimbursement. 1. Stop payment with your bank if you paid by check. 2. Contact the Security Department of your credit card company to file a chargeback if you paid via credit card. 3. If you paid via Western Union or MoneyGram, contact the company directly (Western Union 800-325-6000 or MoneyGram 800-926-9400). 4. If you paid with PayPal, you may be eligible for up to $1,000 USD coverage at no cost. To file a claim with PayPal, login to your PayPal account and copy and paste the following link into your web browser: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_protections-buyer-outside Scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on the File a Claim link. PayPal claims must be filed within 45 days of the close of the listing. It may take at least 30 days to complete the investigation and resolve the dispute. 5. If you did not pay with PayPal and would like to file a claim with eBay, please initiate the Item Not Received Process online directly from the Security and Resolution Center at the bottom of the eBay.com page. 6. eBay claims must be filed within 60 days of the end of the listing. Our goal is to ensure that your eBay experience is safe so that you can buy confidently. It is rare that something goes wrong with a transaction on eBay. However, in the event it does, we would like to provide as much assistance as possible to help resolve the issue. Please do not respond to this email, as your reply will not be received. Regards, Customer Support (Trust and Safety Department)
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| New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Minneapolis
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![]() ![]() | Re: Possible Navy MK-15 Rebreather scam I placed a "buy it now" bid on a Mark V helium hat. The auction was a fraud but I knew that-I had the hat in my possession. I contacted E-bay, they did nothing, I got a negative from the seller for not completing the auction-my first ever, I couldn't be prouder. |
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| New Member Current Rebreather/s: Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Other SCR Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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![]() | Re: Possible Navy MK-15 Rebreather scam The ebay penalty to avoid at all costs while jousting with the scammers by putting in bids of $1.5m on their fraudulent auctions is the mediaeval and oppressive non-payment strike, which renders the recalcitrant buyer a pariah in the eyes of the ebay hierarchy, pretty much like a "stroke" in the WKPP and GUE subculture. Getting rid of one of those is arguably more difficult than expunging a criminal record for child-molesting. Get three of those buggers and you might as well kiss your ebay career goodbye!
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| Obey my dog! Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Townsville QLD
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Possible Navy MK-15 Rebreather scam In a similar situation I only had to send an email to the ebay spoof/frud folks that included the emails form the fraudlent seller and the reversed all negative feedback and nonpaying bidder stuff. Make sure you turn full headers on when you foward the emails to ebay. Admittadly it took them about two weeks to fix the issue but I only had to ask once. |
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| Enlightened Alpinist Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Back in Hawaii
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Possible Navy MK-15 Rebreather scam The ebay penalty to avoid at all costs while jousting with the scammers by putting in bids of $1.5m on their fraudulent auctions is the mediaeval and oppressive non-payment strike... Yes, I probably should not make too many of those 1.5 million bids, but so far Ebay hasn't penalized me. HOWEVER, I not only send the headers to the ebay security department but I send them logs from my webserver after I hit the scammer with an HTML beacon embedded in an e-mail that appears (at least to cash-hungry criminals) to come from Western Union, eg with a subject such as YOU HAVE CASH WAITING FOR YOU AT THE NEAREST WESTERN UNION OFFICE!. Most (but not all) scammers fall for it because they think that the MCN number is in a graphic that they need to download to see. Its only a blank gif file served from my web server that in turn gives me the scammer's IP address.Probably not worth a lot even if fraud takes place, but I get a kick when the hit is from an IP address of an Internet cafe in Budapest, etc. |
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| Enlightened Alpinist Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Back in Hawaii
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Possible Navy MK-15 Rebreather scam The damned thing is up there again, and it appears to be the same guy trying to sell it Item number 290073131175 |
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| New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sarasota, Florida
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![]() | Re: Possible Navy MK-15 Rebreather scam Listing Removed by Thursday 01/19/07. Damn I thought I had an unused MK-15 for $1,000. Jim ************************ I am new to this group but have been following the for sale scam messages. Perhaps I missed it but I haven't seen the recent (01/18/06) ebay MK-15 posting mentioned: # 290073131175 eBay: Navy MK-15 REBREATHER SCUBA DIVING BRAND NEW (item 290073131175 end time Jan-20-07 04:58:04 PST)Offers to sell immediately for $1,000 Posted by a user dinosaurworld a member of ebay since october 2006 I have to believe this is a scum scammer. Unit is listed as NEW. I emailed and asked if I could pay for and pick up the unit at the same time. I wonder if I will get an answer. Cheers Jim Last edited by Jim Culter : 19th January 2007 at 12:49. Reason: update |
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