Probably not a scam but.....

***Beanie*** · 7th June 2007, 12:02

eBay.co.uk: AP VALVES BUDDY INSPIRATION REBREATHER-DEEP SEA DIVING (item 110134658732 end time 10-Jun-07 18:10:58 BST)

So at new prices (sorry needed something to do whilst eating)
2 cylinders £90 each - £180
Mouthpiece £140
Counter lungs £235
Harness £195
Inflators £20 each - £40
Gauges £40 each -£80
Case £100
Auto air £90

Total = £1060

Oh and what’s with the long hose going from inhale to exhale tpeices?!?

Anyone want to buy the packaging my unit came in £50

Silent · 8th June 2007, 15:26

Ha ha!

Looks like the usual very careful play on words....

I think this guy is hoping people will not read all the small print and fail to notice that in the photo's you can see that the bits missing are in fact the head & scrubber can!

Maybe this is what he's hinting at with this phrase "THERE ARE A COUPLE OF BITS YOU WILL PROBABLY NEED TO GET HOLD OF TO COMPLETE THE KIT TO START DIVING."

I wonder how eBay would view this phrasing
"THERE IS A NO RETURN POLICY ON THIS ITEM AS IT IS SOLD AS BRAND NEW AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH IT, JUST NOT NEEDED ANYMORE."
as it is technically incorrect as it's not a "complete & working" rebreather and he doesn't mention this.

Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie)

Oh and what’s with the long hose going from inhale to exhale tpeices?!?

My guess is that if this was a demo/shop window display, the long hose was so they could tuck it into the case so it looked like a complete Inspo....

Marvintpa · 8th June 2007, 16:14

The guy knows enough to hit the key phrases eBay will look at in case of a dispute. He has sold "head units" in the past, may even have been the one from this Rebreather, which seems to suggest his ignorance of not knowing which parts are missing might not be entirely correct.

It worries me that he is not willing to supply other photos and the high bidder name is being kept secret. And this statement, "THERE IS A NO RETURN POLICY ON THIS ITEM AS IT IS SOLD AS BRAND NEW AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH IT, JUST NOT NEEDED ANYMORE" seems to be in conflict with this statement: "I'm not a diver and do not know alot about these rebreathers".

Mark Griffith · 8th June 2007, 16:40

I think the guy is just trying to rip someone off,i hope its been reported to ebay though i doubt they would be interested.
cheers
Mark

n2diving · 9th June 2007, 16:18

Near as I can tell from the pictures.... the entire scrubber and head has been bypassed with the long hose. I would say this is not a rebreather (unless you consider a paper sack to also be a rebreather)... these are some rebreather parts. Sort of like saying I'm selling a car that's missing a few bits... and the bits missing are the engine and wheels. It does solve the pesky problem of having to deal with sorb... just one dive on this 'rebreather' and you'll never deal with sorb again!

**Freef** · 27th June 2007, 20:07

Ask the seller if it is equipped with the new "in hose" scrubber so you don't need the actual housing...

JD White · 28th June 2007, 12:27

He relisted the item after an alleged non paying bidder, but it has since been removed. He claims to know nothing about rebreathers, but knew enough to join the hoses together?

JD

7th June 2007, 12:02	#1 (permalink)
*Beanie* give a man an inch....... Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,172	Probably not a scam but..... eBay.co.uk: AP VALVES BUDDY INSPIRATION REBREATHER-DEEP SEA DIVING (item 110134658732 end time 10-Jun-07 18:10:58 BST) So at new prices (sorry needed something to do whilst eating) 2 cylinders £90 each - £180 Mouthpiece £140 Counter lungs £235 Harness £195 Inflators £20 each - £40 Gauges £40 each -£80 Case £100 Auto air £90 Total = £1060 Oh and what’s with the long hose going from inhale to exhale tpeices?!? Anyone want to buy the packaging my unit came in £50 __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk
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8th June 2007, 15:26	#2 (permalink)
Silent Staying Silent! Mostly... Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Ouroboros Other CCR Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Northants, UK Posts: 383	Re: Probably not a scam but..... Ha ha! Looks like the usual very careful play on words.... I think this guy is hoping people will not read all the small print and fail to notice that in the photo's you can see that the bits missing are in fact the head & scrubber can! Maybe this is what he's hinting at with this phrase "THERE ARE A COUPLE OF BITS YOU WILL PROBABLY NEED TO GET HOLD OF TO COMPLETE THE KIT TO START DIVING." I wonder how eBay would view this phrasing "THERE IS A NO RETURN POLICY ON THIS ITEM AS IT IS SOLD AS BRAND NEW AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH IT, JUST NOT NEEDED ANYMORE." as it is technically incorrect as it's not a "complete & working" rebreather and he doesn't mention this. Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie) Oh and what’s with the long hose going from inhale to exhale tpeices?!? My guess is that if this was a demo/shop window display, the long hose was so they could tuck it into the case so it looked like a complete Inspo....
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8th June 2007, 16:14	#3 (permalink)
Marvintpa Bad knees, matching brain Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 265	Re: Probably not a scam but..... The guy knows enough to hit the key phrases eBay will look at in case of a dispute. He has sold "head units" in the past, may even have been the one from this Rebreather, which seems to suggest his ignorance of not knowing which parts are missing might not be entirely correct. It worries me that he is not willing to supply other photos and the high bidder name is being kept secret. And this statement, "THERE IS A NO RETURN POLICY ON THIS ITEM AS IT IS SOLD AS BRAND NEW AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH IT, JUST NOT NEEDED ANYMORE" seems to be in conflict with this statement: "I'm not a diver and do not know alot about these rebreathers".
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8th June 2007, 16:40	#4 (permalink)
Mark Griffith New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Leeds UK Posts: 57	Re: Probably not a scam but..... I think the guy is just trying to rip someone off,i hope its been reported to ebay though i doubt they would be interested. cheers Mark
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9th June 2007, 16:18	#5 (permalink)
n2diving Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 271	Re: Probably not a scam but..... Near as I can tell from the pictures.... the entire scrubber and head has been bypassed with the long hose. I would say this is not a rebreather (unless you consider a paper sack to also be a rebreather)... these are some rebreather parts. Sort of like saying I'm selling a car that's missing a few bits... and the bits missing are the engine and wheels. It does solve the pesky problem of having to deal with sorb... just one dive on this 'rebreather' and you'll never deal with sorb again! Last edited by n2diving : 9th June 2007 at 16:29.
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27th June 2007, 20:07	#6 (permalink)
Freef Custom Title Disallowed! Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Land of the Freef, UK. Posts: 1,353	Re: Probably not a scam but..... Ask the seller if it is equipped with the new "in hose" scrubber so you don't need the actual housing... __________________ David. Currently owner of two differently sized ankles.
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28th June 2007, 12:27	#7 (permalink)
JD White New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Adelaide Posts: 44	Re: Probably not a scam but..... He relisted the item after an alleged non paying bidder, but it has since been removed. He claims to know nothing about rebreathers, but knew enough to join the hoses together? JD __________________ Drilling holes is just boring.....
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