Heart Attacks

Drmike · 6th April 2005, 15:48

Bugger this.

Im gonna book a medical tomorrow.

[now do I need to supply my own KY?.....]

ROB DAVIE · 6th April 2005, 15:52

Quote: (Originally Posted by dive2dive2000)

Only in Texas Stears and ... sorry could not resist.

Martin

....And ah don't see no horns on your head, boy!!!!......

***schford*** · 6th April 2005, 15:52

I'm too scared to get a medical - they would tell me I am overweight and unfit ;-)

Stuart

ROB DAVIE · 6th April 2005, 16:00

Quote: (Originally Posted by Drmike)

Bugger this.

Im gonna book a medical tomorrow.

[now do I need to supply my own KY?.....]

Depends on how friendly you are with your Doc, Mike!!!

Rob

**wedivebc** · 6th April 2005, 17:16

In Victoria there is a shore dive called Willis Point. There is a deep wall just a few feet from shore. I used to dive it with double steel tanks then hump those puppies up the hill to my car. Now I am less likely to have a heart attack with my rebreather since it weighs about 30lbs less than my steel tanks

Nad · 6th April 2005, 18:14

Quote: (Originally Posted by schford)

I'm too scared to get a medical - they would tell me I am overweight and unfit ;-)

Stuart

I agree, why to pay a doctor that will tell you something you already know

Ok, I think the point is the one Rob described:

We are generally older than the rest, (I mean just a bit older), and of course it could be some problems or many problems together, a yearly check should be done.

Nad

***Beanie*** · 6th April 2005, 18:48

Quote: (Originally Posted by Nad)

We are generally older than the rest, (I mean just a bit older), and of course it could be some problems or many problems together, a yearly check should be done.

OI you lot speak for yourselves I'm in the prime of my youth

Nad · 6th April 2005, 19:49

Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie)

OI you lot speak for yourselves I'm in the prime of my youth

Ooooooooops.
ok, my turn:

Nad

dteubner · 6th April 2005, 21:45

The other issue is whether or not the people really did have heart attacks. The term means different things to different people. What we are talking about are real heart attacks, (myocardial infarctions (MI)as the cognoscenti call them) caused by blockages in the coronary arteries.

The media (particularly) often translate cardiac arrest as heart attack and, of course, cardiac arrest just means dead from whatever cause - drowning especially in the diving context.

Whilst older divers will have a higher incidence of MI than younger divers the incidence in people aged 40-60 is really not that high at all and I would be surprised if there were many Rebreather deaths genuinely due to MI's

Just as an observation, when I was training (in the early to mid 90's) we used to see about 150-200 MI's a year through my place and that number has dropped to about 30-50 now.

Dave T

**UWSojourner** · 6th April 2005, 22:43

Quote: (Originally Posted by ROB DAVIE)

The damned things are SO expensive, that generally we are a more mature group, when compared to the diving population as a whole, by the time we are in a position financially to purchase them.

Jeeze, I suddenly feel old.

Anyone know if the Meg has a walker attachment?

Feebly yours,

UWS

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Drmike Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Ouroboros Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,300	Bugger this. Im gonna book a medical tomorrow. [now do I need to supply my own KY?.....]
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*schford* Despotic Overlord Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,687	I'm too scared to get a medical - they would tell me I am overweight and unfit ;-) Stuart
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ROB DAVIE Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: HOUSTON, REPUBLIC OF TEJAS Posts: 1,120	Quote: (Originally Posted by Drmike) Bugger this. Im gonna book a medical tomorrow. [now do I need to supply my own KY?.....] Depends on how friendly you are with your Doc, Mike!!! Rob __________________ [SIZE=2]"CC Rebreathers will become a viable part of tech diving [U]WHEN PIGS FLY[/U]!!"--GI3[/SIZE]
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6th April 2005, 17:16	#15 (permalink)
wedivebc Dave Tomblin Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Vancouver Island BC Canada Posts: 1,447	In Victoria there is a shore dive called Willis Point. There is a deep wall just a few feet from shore. I used to dive it with double steel tanks then hump those puppies up the hill to my car. Now I am less likely to have a heart attack with my rebreather since it weighs about 30lbs less than my steel tanks
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6th April 2005, 18:14	#16 (permalink)
Nad Rebel to the Bone Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 981	Quote: (Originally Posted by schford) I'm too scared to get a medical - they would tell me I am overweight and unfit ;-) Stuart I agree, why to pay a doctor that will tell you something you already know Ok, I think the point is the one Rob described: We are generally older than the rest, (I mean just a bit older), and of course it could be some problems or many problems together, a yearly check should be done. Nad __________________ The Impossible is often the Untried
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*Beanie* give a man an inch....... Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,247	Quote: (Originally Posted by Nad) We are generally older than the rest, (I mean just a bit older), and of course it could be some problems or many problems together, a yearly check should be done. OI you lot speak for yourselves I'm in the prime of my youth __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk 0871 242 7808
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6th April 2005, 21:45	#19 (permalink)
dteubner Pedant Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 216	The other issue is whether or not the people really did have heart attacks. The term means different things to different people. What we are talking about are real heart attacks, (myocardial infarctions (MI)as the cognoscenti call them) caused by blockages in the coronary arteries. The media (particularly) often translate cardiac arrest as heart attack and, of course, cardiac arrest just means dead from whatever cause - drowning especially in the diving context. Whilst older divers will have a higher incidence of MI than younger divers the incidence in people aged 40-60 is really not that high at all and I would be surprised if there were many Rebreather deaths genuinely due to MI's Just as an observation, when I was training (in the early to mid 90's) we used to see about 150-200 MI's a year through my place and that number has dropped to about 30-50 now. Dave T
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UWSojourner Pacific Northwest Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 556	Quote: (Originally Posted by ROB DAVIE) The damned things are SO expensive, that generally we are a more mature group, when compared to the diving population as a whole, by the time we are in a position financially to purchase them. Jeeze, I suddenly feel old. Anyone know if the Meg has a walker attachment? Feebly yours, UWS
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