Dirty loop and lung infection?

cedricverdier · 9th May 2007, 00:05

Hi all,

Is anybody aware of a documented case of lung infection (or any other related-disease) because of an improperly cleaned rebreather loop?

Have you even been ill because of "dirty" breathing loop? What kind of disease could it actually be?

Cheers

bendomatic · 9th May 2007, 02:24

babar · 9th May 2007, 02:34

FWIW those guys got ear and skin infections from the psuedomonas. I think the major risk in a breathing loop would be transmitting viruses. Or, if it was REALLY a long time since you cleaned your loop, maybe fungal

chunter · 9th May 2007, 04:33

Quote: (Originally Posted by cedricverdier)

Hi all,

Is anybody aware of a documented case of lung infection (or any other related-disease) because of an improperly cleaned rebreather loop?

Have you even been ill because of "dirty" breathing loop? What kind of disease could it actually be?

Cheers

I may have had minor sinus infections as a result of getting lazy with my loop. Nothing that I could categorically say was a direct result of "nasty loop". I do think that getting the loop dry can minimize the need for disinfecting. I did know someone (I'll not mention names) who claimed to never disinfect, and he did a lot of diving (on a CIS).

I think that we should do a study where half of the Rebreather World members don't clean loops for a year. I'll be on the side that does!

pattimegdiver · 9th May 2007, 04:35

I am in the habit of cleaning my loop and counter lungs at the time I change my scrubber, to avoid any type of lung or throat infection. If anyone uses or try out my Rebreather I definitely will santize the loop and counter lungs. Also if I do any warm water diving I usually will rinse the loop and counter lungs out every night.

kkcheo · 9th May 2007, 04:58

Quote: (Originally Posted by pattimegdiver)

I am in the habit of cleaning my loop and counter lungs at the time I change my scrubber, to avoid any type of lung or throat infection. If anyone uses or try out my Rebreather I definitely will santize the loop and counter lungs. Also if I do any warm water diving I usually will rinse the loop and counter lungs out every night.

Hi Patti

Do you totally disinfect the loop at the end of the day? If you're diving again tomorrow, how do you dry it in time?

Cedric - I think you have to show me how to disinfect the loop and lungs again

Cheers
-Keng

pattimegdiver · 9th May 2007, 07:54

Quote: (Originally Posted by kkcheo)

Hi Patti

Do you totally disinfect the loop at the end of the day? If you're diving again tomorrow, how do you dry it in time?

Cedric - I think you have to show me how to disinfect the loop and lungs again

Cheers
-Keng

for warm water diving I usually have a disinfectant and rinse tub, and hang them up. In the morning I use a cloth and take the residual water out of the counter lungs and sweeze the loop it is part of the check off list

I work in the ER.. it is all about body fluids

ya know

Dutchy · 9th May 2007, 08:00

Quote: (Originally Posted by kkcheo)

Hi Patti

Do you totally disinfect the loop at the end of the day? If you're diving again tomorrow, how do you dry it in time?

Cedric - I think you have to show me how to disinfect the loop and lungs again

Cheers
-Keng

I'm anal about cleaning too as I've a long history on pneumnonia and bronchitis so I do clean it. Sometimes even an hour before a dive. The result is that I'll dive a slightly wet loop but since I fail to see why that is different from a loop with condensation I don't mind

. Ignorance is a blessing

Gilles · 9th May 2007, 08:33

Down here in the tropics, if/when I neglect cleaning my loop, it starts to get a pretty nasty taste sometimes. Add to that, an accumulation of brown grunge between the mouthpeice rubber, and DSV nipple (

couldn't find the vomit icon).

Gets cleaned end of every weekend. Still pretty healthy (so far).

**nigelh** · 9th May 2007, 09:27

So no bids so far...

An interesting thought is that the kind of things that have evolved a taste for human flesh (at a microbial level) probably find salt water lethal.

I wouldn't stop cleaning it either because, frankly, I don't want to know what is in the exhale counterlung after a good weekend diving with a nice curry Saterday night.

9th May 2007, 00:05	#1 (permalink)
cedricverdier S21 M.I.B. Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Worldwide! Posts: 497	Dirty loop and lung infection? Hi all, Is anybody aware of a documented case of lung infection (or any other related-disease) because of an improperly cleaned rebreather loop? Have you even been ill because of "dirty" breathing loop? What kind of disease could it actually be? Cheers __________________ Cedric Verdier PADI Course Director, ANDI-IANTD-PSAI-TDI-DSAT-DAN-NAUI-CMAS Instructor Trainer Trimix (CCR and OC) and Cave Diving Instructor Trainer www.CedricVerdier.com DIRrebreather member
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bendomatic Morgan's Mum Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 205	Re: Dirty loop and lung infection? oops __________________ why deal with idiots on the net when you have to spend all day dealing with them at work. Last edited by bendomatic : 9th May 2007 at 03:26.
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babar Curmudgeon Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Sport Kiss Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Other CCR Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 417	Re: Dirty loop and lung infection? FWIW those guys got ear and skin infections from the psuedomonas. I think the major risk in a breathing loop would be transmitting viruses. Or, if it was REALLY a long time since you cleaned your loop, maybe fungal __________________ Babar Evolution Plus Sport kiss
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9th May 2007, 04:33	#4 (permalink)
chunter I like diving Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Classic Kiss Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Honolulu Posts: 478	Re: Dirty loop and lung infection? Quote: (Originally Posted by cedricverdier) Hi all, Is anybody aware of a documented case of lung infection (or any other related-disease) because of an improperly cleaned rebreather loop? Have you even been ill because of "dirty" breathing loop? What kind of disease could it actually be? Cheers I may have had minor sinus infections as a result of getting lazy with my loop. Nothing that I could categorically say was a direct result of "nasty loop". I do think that getting the loop dry can minimize the need for disinfecting. I did know someone (I'll not mention names) who claimed to never disinfect, and he did a lot of diving (on a CIS). I think that we should do a study where half of the Rebreather World members don't clean loops for a year. I'll be on the side that does! __________________ "Foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." - Emerson "Hobgoblin is a cool word." - Charlie
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pattimegdiver #1 COPIS Mini Meg Girl Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 307	Re: Dirty loop and lung infection? I am in the habit of cleaning my loop and counter lungs at the time I change my scrubber, to avoid any type of lung or throat infection. If anyone uses or try out my Rebreather I definitely will santize the loop and counter lungs. Also if I do any warm water diving I usually will rinse the loop and counter lungs out every night. __________________ Patti Meg Diver Remember that great love and great achievements involve great risk
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kkcheo New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Working in Laos diving in Thailand Posts: 69	Re: Dirty loop and lung infection? Quote: (Originally Posted by pattimegdiver) I am in the habit of cleaning my loop and counter lungs at the time I change my scrubber, to avoid any type of lung or throat infection. If anyone uses or try out my Rebreather I definitely will santize the loop and counter lungs. Also if I do any warm water diving I usually will rinse the loop and counter lungs out every night. Hi Patti Do you totally disinfect the loop at the end of the day? If you're diving again tomorrow, how do you dry it in time? Cedric - I think you have to show me how to disinfect the loop and lungs again Cheers -Keng
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9th May 2007, 07:54	#7 (permalink)
pattimegdiver #1 COPIS Mini Meg Girl Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 307	Re: Dirty loop and lung infection? Quote: (Originally Posted by kkcheo) Hi Patti Do you totally disinfect the loop at the end of the day? If you're diving again tomorrow, how do you dry it in time? Cedric - I think you have to show me how to disinfect the loop and lungs again Cheers -Keng for warm water diving I usually have a disinfectant and rinse tub, and hang them up. In the morning I use a cloth and take the residual water out of the counter lungs and sweeze the loop it is part of the check off list I work in the ER.. it is all about body fluids ya know __________________ Patti Meg Diver Remember that great love and great achievements involve great risk Last edited by pattimegdiver : 9th May 2007 at 08:06.
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Dutchy Rene Warries Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Nieuwegein (The Netherlands) Posts: 770	Re: Dirty loop and lung infection? Quote: (Originally Posted by kkcheo) Hi Patti Do you totally disinfect the loop at the end of the day? If you're diving again tomorrow, how do you dry it in time? Cedric - I think you have to show me how to disinfect the loop and lungs again Cheers -Keng I'm anal about cleaning too as I've a long history on pneumnonia and bronchitis so I do clean it. Sometimes even an hour before a dive. The result is that I'll dive a slightly wet loop but since I fail to see why that is different from a loop with condensation I don't mind . Ignorance is a blessing __________________ = This post is environmentally friendly. It is composed of 100% recycled electrons only. =
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Gilles Worship the feminine Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Den Haag (Netherlands) Posts: 762	Re: Dirty loop and lung infection? Down here in the tropics, if/when I neglect cleaning my loop, it starts to get a pretty nasty taste sometimes. Add to that, an accumulation of brown grunge between the mouthpeice rubber, and DSV nipple ( couldn't find the vomit icon). Gets cleaned end of every weekend. Still pretty healthy (so far). __________________ Gilles http://www.dirrebreather.com
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nigelh New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brighton, Sussex, UK Posts: 838	Re: Dirty loop and lung infection? So no bids so far... An interesting thought is that the kind of things that have evolved a taste for human flesh (at a microbial level) probably find salt water lethal. I wouldn't stop cleaning it either because, frankly, I don't want to know what is in the exhale counterlung after a good weekend diving with a nice curry Saterday night. __________________ nigelh
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