Matching GAP to HSE?

whaam68 · 15th May 2006, 18:31

Hi all
I did my first KISS deco dive with my "new" HS Explorer on Sunday..nothing too extreme, 38m for 35 minutes on the bottom, total run 55min. I had cut a table in GAP Lite, Air dil planned for 1.2 on the bottom, 1.0 on ascent and 0.7 at 6m (was diving with a buddy on O/C so was in no rush to get out). GAP would only give me a deepest stop of 9m on these set points with the balance at 6 & 3m, the HS set to CF2 (RGBM cold water) wanted a minute at 15m then 12m stop, 9m, 6m, 3m etc. So does anyone have a suggestion as to what to set the GF high/low to in GAP to more closely follow the HS's deco profile?...I do not want to know about Vplanner etc as Gap lite & the HS are what I have
Thanks
Mike

GAP · 15th May 2006, 19:28

Quote: (Originally Posted by whaam68)

Hi all
I did my first KISS deco dive with my "new" HS Explorer on Sunday..nothing too extreme, 38m for 35 minutes on the bottom, total run 55min. I had cut a table in GAP Lite, Air dil planned for 1.2 on the bottom, 1.0 on ascent and 0.7 at 6m (was diving with a buddy on O/C so was in no rush to get out). GAP would only give me a deepest stop of 9m on these set points with the balance at 6 & 3m, the HS set to CF2 (RGBM cold water) wanted a minute at 15m then 12m stop, 9m, 6m, 3m etc. So does anyone have a suggestion as to what to set the GF high/low to in GAP to more closely follow the HS's deco profile?...I do not want to know about Vplanner etc as Gap lite & the HS are what I have
Thanks
Mike

Why dont you use the RGBM setting in GAP-Lite?

Greetings Kees

whaam68 · 15th May 2006, 20:33

Hi Kees
RGBM is ticked on, Rfac1 Pfac1 Bfac1 Temp 0, conservatism "user set", the BuhlmannGF box isn't ticked but the GF is showing as High 75 Low 25....I will have a look at the manual but any pointers are appreciated
Mike

whaam68 · 15th May 2006, 21:12

Kees
OK...checked the manual

...problem was RGBM settings were ticked but still at "user set" in the dropdown window...I have now set it to +1 conservatism & the deep stops start at 15m for the profile above which is nearer to what I was expecting...

Do you know if the Explorer RGBM implementation for CF2 (cold water, Heavy work) is closer to GAP "nominal" or +1 conservatism...
Mike

***jradomski*** · 15th May 2006, 21:54

Quote: (Originally Posted by whaam68)

Kees
OK...checked the manual

...problem was RGBM settings were ticked but still at "user set" in the dropdown window...I have now set it to +1 conservatism & the deep stops start at 15m for the profile above which is nearer to what I was expecting...

Do you know if the Explorer RGBM implementation for CF2 (cold water, Heavy work) is closer to GAP "nominal" or +1 conservatism...
Mike

It depends on the profile.. There is no one setting that works.. The explorer increases the BFAC as you go deeper.. IF I remember correctly its .1 per ata

GAP · 16th May 2006, 04:06

Quote: (Originally Posted by jradomski)

It depends on the profile.. There is no one setting that works.. The explorer increases the BFAC as you go deeper.. IF I remember correctly its .1 per ata

almost 0.1 per Bar....

Kees

whaam68 · 16th May 2006, 06:24

OK that's fine...at the relatively shallow depths I'm operating at I should be able to get a fairly close track between the table & the computer. The more I use the HS the more I like it.
Mike

15th May 2006, 18:31	#1 (permalink)
whaam68 CK#121 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK not so sunny Luton Posts: 84	Matching GAP to HSE? Hi all I did my first KISS deco dive with my "new" HS Explorer on Sunday..nothing too extreme, 38m for 35 minutes on the bottom, total run 55min. I had cut a table in GAP Lite, Air dil planned for 1.2 on the bottom, 1.0 on ascent and 0.7 at 6m (was diving with a buddy on O/C so was in no rush to get out). GAP would only give me a deepest stop of 9m on these set points with the balance at 6 & 3m, the HS set to CF2 (RGBM cold water) wanted a minute at 15m then 12m stop, 9m, 6m, 3m etc. So does anyone have a suggestion as to what to set the GF high/low to in GAP to more closely follow the HS's deco profile?...I do not want to know about Vplanner etc as Gap lite & the HS are what I have Thanks Mike
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15th May 2006, 19:28	#2 (permalink)
GAP RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: the Netherlands, heerhugoward Posts: 26	Re: Matching GAP to HSE? Quote: (Originally Posted by whaam68) Hi all I did my first KISS deco dive with my "new" HS Explorer on Sunday..nothing too extreme, 38m for 35 minutes on the bottom, total run 55min. I had cut a table in GAP Lite, Air dil planned for 1.2 on the bottom, 1.0 on ascent and 0.7 at 6m (was diving with a buddy on O/C so was in no rush to get out). GAP would only give me a deepest stop of 9m on these set points with the balance at 6 & 3m, the HS set to CF2 (RGBM cold water) wanted a minute at 15m then 12m stop, 9m, 6m, 3m etc. So does anyone have a suggestion as to what to set the GF high/low to in GAP to more closely follow the HS's deco profile?...I do not want to know about Vplanner etc as Gap lite & the HS are what I have Thanks Mike Why dont you use the RGBM setting in GAP-Lite? Greetings Kees __________________
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15th May 2006, 20:33	#3 (permalink)
whaam68 CK#121 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK not so sunny Luton Posts: 84	Re: Matching GAP to HSE? Hi Kees RGBM is ticked on, Rfac1 Pfac1 Bfac1 Temp 0, conservatism "user set", the BuhlmannGF box isn't ticked but the GF is showing as High 75 Low 25....I will have a look at the manual but any pointers are appreciated Mike
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15th May 2006, 21:12	#4 (permalink)
whaam68 CK#121 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK not so sunny Luton Posts: 84	Re: Matching GAP to HSE? Kees OK...checked the manual ...problem was RGBM settings were ticked but still at "user set" in the dropdown window...I have now set it to +1 conservatism & the deep stops start at 15m for the profile above which is nearer to what I was expecting... Do you know if the Explorer RGBM implementation for CF2 (cold water, Heavy work) is closer to GAP "nominal" or +1 conservatism... Mike
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15th May 2006, 21:54	#5 (permalink)
*jradomski* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "Da" Bronx Posts: 2,871	Re: Matching GAP to HSE? Quote: (Originally Posted by whaam68) Kees OK...checked the manual ...problem was RGBM settings were ticked but still at "user set" in the dropdown window...I have now set it to +1 conservatism & the deep stops start at 15m for the profile above which is nearer to what I was expecting... Do you know if the Explorer RGBM implementation for CF2 (cold water, Heavy work) is closer to GAP "nominal" or +1 conservatism... Mike It depends on the profile.. There is no one setting that works.. The explorer increases the BFAC as you go deeper.. IF I remember correctly its .1 per ata __________________ Joe Radomski CCR Trimix Instructor Trainer ANDI Instructor Trainer Director #10 All posts are personal opinions and DO NOT reflect any affiliated agency unless specifically stated.
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16th May 2006, 04:06	#6 (permalink)
GAP RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: the Netherlands, heerhugoward Posts: 26	Re: Matching GAP to HSE? Quote: (Originally Posted by jradomski) It depends on the profile.. There is no one setting that works.. The explorer increases the BFAC as you go deeper.. IF I remember correctly its .1 per ata almost 0.1 per Bar.... Kees __________________
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16th May 2006, 06:24	#7 (permalink)
whaam68 CK#121 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK not so sunny Luton Posts: 84	Re: Matching GAP to HSE? OK that's fine...at the relatively shallow depths I'm operating at I should be able to get a fairly close track between the table & the computer. The more I use the HS the more I like it. Mike
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