Question for HS - RGBM users

gtzavelas · 1st October 2007, 19:41

I have been using the RGBM algorithm (HS computer) for more than 1 ½ year, both with my previous pSCR and now with my Meg.
From the beginning I have been padding the shallow stops (quite heavily on the deep dives) as comparing the profiles with other algorithms I felt that they were too short.
From what I hear from some other divers using HS- RGBM they do the same.

Are there any divers using the HS-RGBM with out padding the shallow stops???

***jradomski*** · 1st October 2007, 20:12

Quote: (Originally Posted by gtzavelas)

I have been using the RGBM algorithm (HS computer) for more than 1 ½ year, both with my previous pSCR and now with my Meg.
From the beginning I have been padding the shallow stops (quite heavily on the deep dives) as comparing the profiles with other algorithms I felt that they were too short.
From what I hear from some other divers using HS- RGBM they do the same.

Are there any divers using the HS-RGBM with out padding the shallow stops???

I generally don't pad the stops unless I want to make sure my HH clears..

I generally use setting 1 in warm water, 2 in cold water.. no Issues to date..

sddiverrob · 1st October 2007, 23:43

I pad the stops about half the time, if someone else in the team has more time left. I always dive on RBGM setting 2 on my HS and no issues to date.

Rob

CCR Diver · 2nd October 2007, 02:23

I have never padded my shallow stops.
I always dive cf-2 as almost all of my dives are cold water (Lake Superior)
I have been diving the HS-Explorer for 4 years and have had no problems.
My dive buddy has had the same experiance

gathan · 2nd October 2007, 11:06

I've been padding the shallow stops on long deep dives. I've actually gotten bent a couple times on RGBM profiles until I started padding the shallow stops. I just received a new shearwater pursuit and really like the unit. I'll probabbly end up buying another and sell my two HS explorers.

Andre

gtzavelas · 26th October 2007, 10:42

thanks for the input guys..
any one else???

GKAM · 26th October 2007, 12:24

I have been diving my Explorer for over 2 years now. The standard setting for my trimix dives is CF01. However, I always run the dive plan with Vplanner (VPM/B +2) and do the last stops from 12m up according to that.

The short shallow stops in RGBM simply scare me. A little extra O2 at 6m never hurt (amost) anyone.

I confess. I use padding

/GKAM

Mikel-Deko · 26th October 2007, 13:31

Quote: (Originally Posted by GKAM)

A little extra O2 at 6m never hurt (amost) anyone.

/GKAM

Hi
I use VPMB+2 in deep long dives, and VR3 as Backup. Ussually doing both at the same time i clean the VR3 even if i have finnished my deco in tables.

As GKAM sais... O2 almost never hurt...

Two cents

Mikel

robinfante · 26th October 2007, 13:32

I'm a padder. I've come up from some feeling not so hot, minor type 1 stuff (muscle soreness). OTOH, I was padding some of those times, not on others, so I don't think it much mattered either way. For me the more significant factor is either stress on the muscle (hauling the grapnel, or hanging on a bouncy line) or just long dives, 3-4 hours. I always pad those long dives too, often by a half hour or more, so I guess I don't know.

silent running · 26th October 2007, 16:49

I wind up padding when I stay in the water with my VR3 diving buddies while they work off the 20 or so extra minutes at 6M.

But it's nice to know that I could get out of the water sooner if I needed to...

1st October 2007, 19:41	#1 (permalink)
gtzavelas Rebreather World Writer Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon RB80 / Clone Other Rebreather/s: RB80 / Clone Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Athens,Greece Posts: 264	Question for HS - RGBM users I have been using the RGBM algorithm (HS computer) for more than 1 ½ year, both with my previous pSCR and now with my Meg. From the beginning I have been padding the shallow stops (quite heavily on the deep dives) as comparing the profiles with other algorithms I felt that they were too short. From what I hear from some other divers using HS- RGBM they do the same. Are there any divers using the HS-RGBM with out padding the shallow stops???
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1st October 2007, 20:12	#2 (permalink)
*jradomski* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "Da" Bronx Posts: 3,004	Re: Question for HS - RGBM users Quote: (Originally Posted by gtzavelas) I have been using the RGBM algorithm (HS computer) for more than 1 ½ year, both with my previous pSCR and now with my Meg. From the beginning I have been padding the shallow stops (quite heavily on the deep dives) as comparing the profiles with other algorithms I felt that they were too short. From what I hear from some other divers using HS- RGBM they do the same. Are there any divers using the HS-RGBM with out padding the shallow stops??? I generally don't pad the stops unless I want to make sure my HH clears.. I generally use setting 1 in warm water, 2 in cold water.. no Issues to date.. __________________ Joe Radomski CCR Trimix Instructor Trainer ANDI Instructor Trainer Director #10 All posts are personal opinions and DO NOT reflect any affiliated agency unless specifically stated.
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sddiverrob New Member Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic rEvo Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 87	Re: Question for HS - RGBM users I pad the stops about half the time, if someone else in the team has more time left. I always dive on RBGM setting 2 on my HS and no issues to date. Rob __________________ "Tech divers are the same all over the world..."
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CCR Diver New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: St.Paul Minnesota Posts: 4	Re: Question for HS - RGBM users I have never padded my shallow stops. I always dive cf-2 as almost all of my dives are cold water (Lake Superior) I have been diving the HS-Explorer for 4 years and have had no problems. My dive buddy has had the same experiance
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2nd October 2007, 11:06	#5 (permalink)
gathan MixedGas Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Other SCR Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tottenham, Ontario, Canada Posts: 194	Re: Question for HS - RGBM users I've been padding the shallow stops on long deep dives. I've actually gotten bent a couple times on RGBM profiles until I started padding the shallow stops. I just received a new shearwater pursuit and really like the unit. I'll probabbly end up buying another and sell my two HS explorers. Andre
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26th October 2007, 10:42	#6 (permalink)
gtzavelas Rebreather World Writer Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon RB80 / Clone Other Rebreather/s: RB80 / Clone Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Athens,Greece Posts: 264	Re: Question for HS - RGBM users thanks for the input guys.. any one else???
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26th October 2007, 12:24	#7 (permalink)
GKAM digital nomad Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: May 2005 Location: Greece Posts: 252	Re: Question for HS - RGBM users I have been diving my Explorer for over 2 years now. The standard setting for my trimix dives is CF01. However, I always run the dive plan with Vplanner (VPM/B +2) and do the last stops from 12m up according to that. The short shallow stops in RGBM simply scare me. A little extra O2 at 6m never hurt (amost) anyone. I confess. I use padding /GKAM __________________ Stay #
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26th October 2007, 13:31	#8 (permalink)
Mikel-Deko Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Basque Country -Sp- Posts: 452	Re: Question for HS - RGBM users Quote: (Originally Posted by GKAM) A little extra O2 at 6m never hurt (amost) anyone. /GKAM Hi I use VPMB+2 in deep long dives, and VR3 as Backup. Ussually doing both at the same time i clean the VR3 even if i have finnished my deco in tables. As GKAM sais... O2 almost never hurt... Two cents Mikel __________________ Mikel-Deko Basque Country www.olatu.net "DIR is the nanny state for divers who cannot think on their own" Ron Micjan
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26th October 2007, 13:32	#9 (permalink)
robinfante I have a smoking gun Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Prism Topaz MK 15.X Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: mountain lakes nj Posts: 148	Re: Question for HS - RGBM users I'm a padder. I've come up from some feeling not so hot, minor type 1 stuff (muscle soreness). OTOH, I was padding some of those times, not on others, so I don't think it much mattered either way. For me the more significant factor is either stress on the muscle (hauling the grapnel, or hanging on a bouncy line) or just long dives, 3-4 hours. I always pad those long dives too, often by a half hour or more, so I guess I don't know. __________________ Homer to Bart: “When a woman says nothing’s wrong, everything is wrong. And when a woman says everything’s wrong, EVERYTHING is wrong. And when a woman says something’s not funny, you better not laugh your ass off!” Check out www.robinfante.blogspot.com for trip reports and pics.
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silent running Mature mouth breather Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: U.S.A. Brooklyn, New York Posts: 1,832	Re: Question for HS - RGBM users I wind up padding when I stay in the water with my VR3 diving buddies while they work off the 20 or so extra minutes at 6M. But it's nice to know that I could get out of the water sooner if I needed to...
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