Converting Bauer Capitano to single phase electric.

divetheworld · 27th June 2006, 13:00

I am converting my diesel Bauer Capitano to single phase electric.
All things considered, it is pointing me towards a 3kw (4HP) 2 pole foot mounted motor with cap start-cap run.
This is an expensive conversion. Any advise from those who have converted a similar size pump would be appreciated.

Brent.

P.S., yes, I am as tight as a camel's arse in a sand storm.

louisrankin · 27th June 2006, 17:05

I converted my Coltri Sub MCH 6/SH and put a clarke motor on it from Machine Mart

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=010210259

It was expensive I could not find a large single phase on ebay you can always get cheap 3 phase motors on ebay, I did think of getting a phase convertor but could not find one cheap enough.

One thing to remember is the compressor will pump a lot slower with a smaller HP motor is now about 65lm when it was 100lm

Louis

G4SSG · 27th June 2006, 17:36

HI
big single phase motors are quite hard too find now..
they were available up to 10 hp ..
phase convertors are not suitable for high initial loads like compressors..
i have a single 5 hp on my dunlop...it runs ok , but the motor is bigger than the compressor,,the single phase motor i have was an original 440v single phase ..re-wound to 230v.......it is well up to the job...it as no modern equivalent.......
you occasionally see them for sale on e-bay
i have a simple rule for things like this ...If you can lift it, it's not man enough fot the job..................martyn

divetheworld · 27th June 2006, 21:36

Quote: (Originally Posted by louisrankin)

I converted my Coltri Sub MCH 6/SH and put a clarke motor on it from Machine Mart

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=010210259

It was expensive I could not find a large single phase on ebay you can always get cheap 3 phase motors on ebay, I did think of getting a phase convertor but could not find one cheap enough.

One thing to remember is the compressor will pump a lot slower with a smaller HP motor is now about 65lm when it was 100lm

Louis

Hmm, unfortunately, the Bauer Capitano is closer to the Coltri MCH13.
How do you find that motor on your 3.5cfm?

***Beanie*** · 27th June 2006, 21:45

any good?

Depending on your budget

divetheworld · 27th June 2006, 21:50

Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie)

any good?

Depending on your budget

Did I mention that I'm as tight as a camels arse in a sandstorm?

Ferk me, 'alf a monkey!

(Hoping someone wants a cashy money back hander at the back door to their factory

)

cool_hardware52 · 27th June 2006, 21:52

Quote: (Originally Posted by divetheworld)

I am converting my diesel Bauer Capitano to single phase electric.
All things considered, it is pointing me towards a 3kw (4HP) 2 pole foot mounted motor with cap start-cap run.
This is an expensive conversion. Any advise from those who have converted a similar size pump would be appreciated.

Brent.

P.S., yes, I am as tight as a camel's arse in a sand storm.

You might consider a variable frequency inverter and drive a 3 phase motor.

Some VF drives have a single phase input and true three phase output. They aren't cheap, but 3ph motors are.

This is not a "rotophase" or capacitor bank. Check Ebay etc.

Couple cautions: The VF drives can't produce more voltage output than input, so if you want to drive a 240 volt motor at name plate rpm you need 240 volt AC input.

Using a VF drive is usually cheaper than phase converters from an install point of view becasue it can be directly mounted to and wired to the driven device, unlike the rotophase and phase a matic approach which can involve multiple disconnects to meet code.

Good luck,

Tobin

***Beanie*** · 27th June 2006, 22:08

Quote: (Originally Posted by divetheworld)

Did I mention that I'm as tight as a camels arse in a sandstorm?

Ferk me, 'alf a monkey!

(Hoping someone wants a cashy money back hander at the back door to their factory

)

hey lightbulb moment!

use homebrew biodiesel in the thing

why do you want to convert it anyway?

divetheworld · 27th June 2006, 22:11

Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie)

hey lightbulb moment!

use homebrew biodiesel in the thing

why do you want to convert it anyway?

Noise and vibration.
The motor has just been reconditioned, A Lombardini diesel but I like the convienience of not pissing off the neighbours.

***Beanie*** · 27th June 2006, 22:15

Quote: (Originally Posted by divetheworld)

Noise and vibration.
The motor has just been reconditioned, A Lombardini diesel but I like the convienience of not pissing off the neighbours.

Ah OK on our petrol one we have a 3 metre long 'exhast pipe' no sure if something like that would help. You can here my baby booster over the top of it outside the garage.

petrol engines suitable are on ebay cheap £50 ish

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*Beanie* Gallery Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,327	Re: Converting Bauer Capitano to single phase electric. Quote: (Originally Posted by divetheworld) Noise and vibration. The motor has just been reconditioned, A Lombardini diesel but I like the convienience of not pissing off the neighbours. Ah OK on our petrol one we have a 3 metre long 'exhast pipe' no sure if something like that would help. You can here my baby booster over the top of it outside the garage. petrol engines suitable are on ebay cheap £50 ish __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk
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