Which Booster pump...

TechBlue · 2nd May 2005, 12:07

Hi Stefan,

The Hydraulic International pump is a great deal for the US no duties an shipping is about two thirds less. At the moment we don't have it up on the site but I would be happy to answer any inquiries. Phi this pump has the option and can be used either as gas or hand driven not either or.

decoweenie · 2nd May 2005, 13:26

Quote: (Originally Posted by TechBlue)

...this pump has the option and can be used either as gas or hand driven not either or.

Now, that's nice.

How much did you mention the cost of the pump ? And how much is the weight (for shipping cost estimation) ?

***caveseeker7*** · 2nd May 2005, 17:25

Quote: (Originally Posted by Factory Information)

3450-PSI REBREATHER BOOSTER
Model: 3G-SS-20-O

... It ensures full 2400 - 3450 psi (166-238 bar) rebreather bottle fills even if the oxygen supply drops below 500 psi (34 bar).

The unit may be driven:
- Manually, by means of its integral hand pump assembly
- a low pressure conventional air compressor, or
- regulated high pressure air storage supply (SCBA bottles). Maximum 150 psi (10 bar) air supply.

Optional controls:
- Integral hand pump assembly
- High pressure air controls (HP regulator, relief valve, on/off valve and gauge)
- Oxygen fill accessory kit (inlet CGA-540 connector, 60" inlet & outlet hoses, outlet filter, outlet on/off valve and DIN connector with bleeder)
- Watertight protective case with wheels (22"L x 14"W x 9"H)

Specifications:
- Dimensions:..........................13.25"L x 3.25"D x 3.25" H
- Weight: .................................................. ..............9.5 lbs
- Pressure Ratio: .................................................. ......23:1
- Maximum Outlet Pressure: ...............................3,450 psi

MSRP: $1,450.00

Performance:
Approximate fill-time for a 19 cu.ft. rebreather to 2,400 psi*
System pressure+++ Approx.+++Approx.
after equalization+++filll time+++fill rates
2000 psi......................1 min.........3.0 scfm
1500 psi......................3.1 min......2.3 scfm
1000 psi......................7.3 min......1.5 scfm
500 psi......................20 min.........0.8 scfm

*based on 105 psi shop air and 60 cycles per minute
NOTE DO NOT exceed 70-100 psi/min fill rate for oxygen service

The only accessory price I asked about was the hand pump assembly, they said $240. Weight given with that assembly was 11 lbs. Prices as of DEMA 04.

decoweenie · 2nd May 2005, 18:27

So similar price to the Jetsam, I thought Chris mentioned it was a lot less

onetime · 2nd May 2005, 18:35

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

So similar price to the Jetsam, I thought Chris mentioned it was a lot less

Actually, he only mentioned that the shipping and duties would be a lot less compared to bringing the Jetsam into the US. Not really a help to you, of course.

decoweenie · 2nd May 2005, 18:38

Quote: (Originally Posted by onetime)

Not really a help to you, of course.

I am an "old-hand" at shipping expensive items internationally having lived in so many countries, so I don't pay VAT (or not very much of it if at all)...

besides, I am a Jetsam dealer too so it will difficult to find a better deal than the Nanobooster for me, personally.

USSMEG · 2nd May 2005, 18:52

If your ONLY going to do CCR fills then the Kiss booster will work, one think I didn't like about it is the Reed valves in it. The Hydraulics International booster looks VERY nice and I think it will have Ball valves in it which is better and they are both about the same money if you buy them other than SDS. I have a VERY large Haskel and one of my friends just got the Hydraulics unit not from SDS and he got it for like $1500 :-), very well priced.
Paul

TechBlue · 2nd May 2005, 22:15

We are selling the Hydraulics International pump for $1450 the manual pump kit can be ordered for an additional $225 and of course we also offer the complete kit with whips and gauges in a Pelican case.

Phil · 7th May 2005, 07:31

I started with a Jetsam Nanobooster for my CCR 3L, it is working fine but as people said if your source is below 50 bars then you are in for a long wait and a lot of air (use to drain a 15L @ 230bars). Then I had the opportunity to purchase an Haskel AGT 32/62 of the Paris fire brigade, this is a great piece kit and I can easily get 300 bars even with a source at 30 bars, I normally bring it down to about 10 bars before changing it. The only draw back on the haskel is the amount of air required to power the booster. I started with a little air compressor but no good, I finally manage to get the result I wanted by putting 6 air compressors in parallel. You can see my setup http://www.rebreatherphil.com/monhaskel.aspx

I keep the Nano for expedition boosting.

***Decodiver*** · 19th May 2005, 10:41

Quote: (Originally Posted by TechBlue)

We are selling the Hydraulics International pump for $1450 the manual pump kit can be ordered for an additional $225 and of course we also offer the complete kit with whips and gauges in a Pelican case.

What is the all-in price for booster, manual attachment, hoses, gauges and Peli case, price to go please?

cheers,

Dave Cooper.

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TechBlue RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Classic Kiss Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Optima Other CCR Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Costa del Sol, Spain Posts: 212	Hi Stefan, The Hydraulic International pump is a great deal for the US no duties an shipping is about two thirds less. At the moment we don't have it up on the site but I would be happy to answer any inquiries. Phi this pump has the option and can be used either as gas or hand driven not either or.
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2nd May 2005, 13:26	#12 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	Quote: (Originally Posted by TechBlue) ...this pump has the option and can be used either as gas or hand driven not either or. Now, that's nice. How much did you mention the cost of the pump ? And how much is the weight (for shipping cost estimation) ?
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2nd May 2005, 17:25	#13 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,496	Hydraulics International, Inc. Quote: (Originally Posted by Factory Information) 3450-PSI REBREATHER BOOSTER Model: 3G-SS-20-O ... It ensures full 2400 - 3450 psi (166-238 bar) rebreather bottle fills even if the oxygen supply drops below 500 psi (34 bar). The unit may be driven: - Manually, by means of its integral hand pump assembly - a low pressure conventional air compressor, or - regulated high pressure air storage supply (SCBA bottles). Maximum 150 psi (10 bar) air supply. Optional controls: - Integral hand pump assembly - High pressure air controls (HP regulator, relief valve, on/off valve and gauge) - Oxygen fill accessory kit (inlet CGA-540 connector, 60" inlet & outlet hoses, outlet filter, outlet on/off valve and DIN connector with bleeder) - Watertight protective case with wheels (22"L x 14"W x 9"H) Specifications: - Dimensions:..........................13.25"L x 3.25"D x 3.25" H - Weight: .................................................. ..............9.5 lbs - Pressure Ratio: .................................................. ......23:1 - Maximum Outlet Pressure: ...............................3,450 psi MSRP: $1,450.00 Performance: Approximate fill-time for a 19 cu.ft. rebreather to 2,400 psi* System pressure+++ Approx.+++Approx. after equalization+++filll time+++fill rates 2000 psi......................1 min.........3.0 scfm 1500 psi......................3.1 min......2.3 scfm 1000 psi......................7.3 min......1.5 scfm 500 psi......................20 min.........0.8 scfm based on 105 psi shop air and 60 cycles per minute NOTE* DO NOT exceed 70-100 psi/min fill rate for oxygen service The only accessory price I asked about was the hand pump assembly, they said $240. Weight given with that assembly was 11 lbs. Prices as of DEMA 04. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.!"
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2nd May 2005, 18:27	#14 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	So similar price to the Jetsam, I thought Chris mentioned it was a lot less
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onetime Classic KISSer #138 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: US, NJ Posts: 696	Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) So similar price to the Jetsam, I thought Chris mentioned it was a lot less Actually, he only mentioned that the shipping and duties would be a lot less compared to bringing the Jetsam into the US. Not really a help to you, of course.
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decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	Quote: (Originally Posted by onetime) Not really a help to you, of course. I am an "old-hand" at shipping expensive items internationally having lived in so many countries, so I don't pay VAT (or not very much of it if at all)... besides, I am a Jetsam dealer too so it will difficult to find a better deal than the Nanobooster for me, personally.
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2nd May 2005, 18:52	#17 (permalink)
USSMEG USSMEG Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mass Posts: 290	If your ONLY going to do CCR fills then the Kiss booster will work, one think I didn't like about it is the Reed valves in it. The Hydraulics International booster looks VERY nice and I think it will have Ball valves in it which is better and they are both about the same money if you buy them other than SDS. I have a VERY large Haskel and one of my friends just got the Hydraulics unit not from SDS and he got it for like $1500 :-), very well priced. Paul
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2nd May 2005, 22:15	#18 (permalink)
TechBlue RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Classic Kiss Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Optima Other CCR Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Costa del Sol, Spain Posts: 212	We are selling the Hydraulics International pump for $1450 the manual pump kit can be ordered for an additional $225 and of course we also offer the complete kit with whips and gauges in a Pelican case.
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7th May 2005, 07:31	#19 (permalink)
Phil Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Ouroboros rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon rEvo Other CCR Join Date: May 2005 Location: Geneva-Switzerland Posts: 172	I started with a Jetsam Nanobooster for my CCR 3L, it is working fine but as people said if your source is below 50 bars then you are in for a long wait and a lot of air (use to drain a 15L @ 230bars). Then I had the opportunity to purchase an Haskel AGT 32/62 of the Paris fire brigade, this is a great piece kit and I can easily get 300 bars even with a source at 30 bars, I normally bring it down to about 10 bars before changing it. The only draw back on the haskel is the amount of air required to power the booster. I started with a little air compressor but no good, I finally manage to get the result I wanted by putting 6 air compressors in parallel. You can see my setup http://www.rebreatherphil.com/monhaskel.aspx I keep the Nano for expedition boosting.
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*Decodiver* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 2,197	Quote: (Originally Posted by TechBlue) We are selling the Hydraulics International pump for $1450 the manual pump kit can be ordered for an additional $225 and of course we also offer the complete kit with whips and gauges in a Pelican case. What is the all-in price for booster, manual attachment, hoses, gauges and Peli case, price to go please? cheers, Dave Cooper. __________________ CCR/OC Trimix Instructor Trainer CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/COPIS-Megalodon/KISS/Sport KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com Rebreather World Terms & Conditions
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