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Re: O2 whip seat fire

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Hi all,

at lunch A friend of mine told me a terrible story that happened to him 2 weeks ago.....

he guy recently bougth a brand new high pressure O2 whip from a famous UK tek dive supplier... please don't ask me wich one I wil say nothing as it did not happen to me.

ok you will say say nothing or everything....but I don't way to be sued...

well, planning a trimix dive he blended a nitrox 50 using the partial pressure method.

so he began decanting the o2, while arrived at the target pressure he turned off the valve gently.

In spite the valve was turned off he noticed the pressure was still increasing, he quickly turned off the o2 valve, the scuba tank valves and flushed.

He noticed the the whip valve was rather warm.

a couple of days after he went to dive, as he used an hypoxic bottom gas he breathed his NX 50 as travel gas...and started coughing very hard...and more and more... after 3 minutes he switched to his bottom mix...

analysing the situation with his trimix instructor, they undid the whip valve and found out the whip valve seat had burnt !!!!
a really toxic gas polluted the tank !!!!

the trimix instructor returned the whip valve to the supplier that told they had had a problem with their own supplier

Emmanuel my friend is a quite guy...that don't want to make any fuss and did to communicate on the internet.

all the divers that witnessed the accident asked him to communicate on the internet to avoid others whip users to have the same problem... I doubt he will do it...

I can't say there what supplier it is cause I have no evidence, I am just sure it is true cause i know this guy and his fellows diver...the only thing I hope is that the supplier has a tracability system , that he will ask all his recent client to send back their whip for verification of the seat material....

terrible story....

regards

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Hey Jean mi,

thanks for sharing this information. i am a bit worried now, since i have a whip kit that i got from a UK seller.

Can you or your friend provide of picture of that whip kit, so there can be at least an identification of it?

the idea is that one has to weigh the risk or somebody else - a fellow diver or dive activity user - having the same trouble with him and maybe not being so lucky to escape injury or death like your friend, and on the other hand, exposing the dealer, supplier, manufacturer and risking legal proceedings.

as a lawyer myself, i would advice you on something.

there is no harm done in sharing your experience. its the same rule that applies to the newspapers and media. if someone tells a story of what has happened ( i.e a real event took place) then nobody can create problems for this guy. now if you are saying the story and deliberately miss a couple of important facts that would give a different picture, then you are in trouble.

so, in your case, if it did happen to your friend, then he has nothing to worry. he is simply describing wht happened to him. He will not be telling others not to use that specific whip kit, or products from the same manufacturer...

Now, if people choose to avoid them, its not his problem.

So, as a diver, he should lean towards sharing and alarming a couple of fellow divers of the potential risk that is out there.

Spyros

P.S...as for the replies you got, i think that going into the pet industry would not be a bad idea...
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Re: O2 whip seat fire

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Another thing for Narked@90 - a housing that you can connect to a gas supply. Inside, a mouse habitat. As you're rigging your kit, you attach each cylinder to the housing and run the gas through it for a few minutes. Clearly it would need to be pressurisable to replicate breathing the gas at depth (maybe an add on to his cell tester).

You'd need some kind of table to map mouse exposure time before depth (METD) against human exposure time before depth (HETD) to confirm whether, if the mouse dies, it would also have been fatal for humans.

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Maybe we could buy it via Switzerland to avoid the CE malarky
or mabyecould we ask for a mine mouse tester EC approuval (((-:
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Hey Jean mi,

thanks for sharing this information. i am a bit worried now, since i have a whip kit that i got from a UK seller.

Can you or your friend provide of picture of that whip kit, so there can be at least an identification of it?

the idea is that one has to weigh the risk or somebody else - a fellow diver or dive activity user - having the same trouble with him and maybe not being so lucky to escape injury or death like your friend, and on the other hand, exposing the dealer, supplier, manufacturer and risking legal proceedings.

as a lawyer myself, i would advice you on something.

there is no harm done in sharing your experience. its the same rule that applies to the newspapers and media. if someone tells a story of what has happened ( i.e a real event took place) then nobody can create problems for this guy. now if you are saying the story and deliberately miss a couple of important facts that would give a different picture, then you are in trouble.

so, in your case, if it did happen to your friend, then he has nothing to worry. he is simply describing wht happened to him. He will not be telling others not to use that specific whip kit, or products from the same manufacturer...

Now, if people choose to avoid them, its not his problem.

So, as a diver, he should lean towards sharing and alarming a couple of fellow divers of the potential risk that is out there.

Spyros

P.S...as for the replies you got, i think that going into the pet industry would not be a bad idea...
This what I said to my friend...let's wait, It did not happened to me and did not direslty witnessed the accident so I can't publically mention the comany name...sorry ...
I think that my friend will end up communicating...
I hope so...

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or mabyecould we ask for a mine mouse tester EC approuval (((-:
I think it's worth doing. This tool has many applications in mining, defence, industrial safety. It's all down to calibrating the mice properly....

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