problem with jetsam baby booster??

paulraymaekers · 29th August 2005, 10:29

hello all,

got my booster for +/- 1 year now, not used much

last week: no movement at all, opened the booster and the piston rod was blocked in the brass cylinder: a small chip of brass was stuck between (I do have an inlet filter)

took everything apart, brass part total loss

new part is beeing produced locally (belgium) (shipping cost to canada is bigger than making new part here)

I asked around, and some other people also got this problem

is it a known problem with the baby-booster???

how can it be prevented?

regards
paul

***Beanie*** · 30th August 2005, 06:11

have you got any pictures?

I've not taken mine apart so not sure quite what your eplaining

mine has been mostly trouble free the only issue so far has been that it stutters sometimes

wizbang · 30th August 2005, 06:46

I have had only the one glitch. I had a little bit of metal (steel I think) caught under one of the reed valves. I read through the manual and took it apart, found the culprit (and its stain) and then after working out I & O put it all back together and it has worked flawlessly since.

I do love it, but it should come with a He analyser for the same price, because I have to save up for one now. :-(

Sorry to hear about your slightly bigger glitch.

PeteS · 30th August 2005, 08:13

Quote: (Originally Posted by paulraymaekers)

got my booster for +/- 1 year now, not used much

last week: no movement at all, opened the booster and the piston rod was blocked in the brass cylinder: a small chip of brass was stuck between (I do have an inlet filter)

took everything apart, brass part total loss

new part is beeing produced locally (belgium) (shipping cost to canada is bigger than making new part here)

I asked around, and some other people also got this problem

is it a known problem with the baby-booster???

how can it be prevented?

Take a look at :- http://www.steggle.co.nz/html/baby_booster.html

I think that's what you mean. Mine just ground to a halt and when I took it apart, that's what I found. If algnment between all the parts was good, the brass cylinder should not be a bearing surface, but it is. So alignment isn't good, if you know what I mean.

Kiss did say send it back, but the cost of shipping........

Prevention? Buy a Haskel! In truth though, my baby booster did do a lot of boosting very well for me all around the world. But every now and then it would just stop with no apparent cause. I say no apparent cause, but I think it is the little valves that operate at the end of the stroke not working reliably. Or the Humphry valve, which regularly used to have ice on it. Full strip and rebuild and off it went again.

paulraymaekers · 30th August 2005, 17:03

"Take a look at :- http://www.steggle.co.nz/html/baby_booster.html"

this is exactly what I got, but much worse: deeper than your pictures

the piston rod was clamped in the brass cylinder, I had to take it out with a 'puller'

new part made by local shop: works ok now
let's hope long :-)

regards
paul

DrJM · 30th August 2005, 17:23

Been there also Paul and had same prob, sent it back ($$$) to Gordon and he fixed it ...
cf Maximator.de cheaper and no more humphrey !!!

jdz · 30th August 2005, 22:00

Quote: (Originally Posted by DrJM)

Been there also Paul and had same prob, sent it back ($$$) to Gordon and he fixed it ...
cf Maximator.de cheaper and no more humphrey !!!

Sorry Jerome, I am not understanding you, are you saying that the Maximators are much more expensive?? and expensive to service/repair?

What price are the maximator units in Europe... ?

Cheers, JDZ

plazma · 6th September 2005, 17:50

Quote: (Originally Posted by DrJM)

cf Maximator.de cheaper and no more humphrey !!!

What model do you have? How much did it cost?

plazma · 14th September 2005, 19:31

Maximator boosters are really expensive.
Model DLE 30-1 costs 2766e.

Philippe GERIN · 14th September 2005, 20:08

Quote: (Originally Posted by plazma)

Maximator boosters are really expensive.
Model DLE 30-1 costs 2766e.

For info: I was quoted $2490 FOB by Maxprotech in the US for model DLE 30-1-01E to the following specs:
16¾" x 10½" x 6.63 wide
38 pounds
30:1 pressure ratio
4640 psi maximum
20:1 compression ratio
300 series stainless body, cylinder, piston, PTFE/viton seals, ceramic check valve balls
Lead time: 1 week.
Not cheap but you get what you pay for. Overkill for me anyway.
Best
Philippe

29th August 2005, 10:29	#1 (permalink)
paulraymaekers rEvo's daddy Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Join Date: May 2005 Location: belgium Posts: 1,501	problem with jetsam baby booster?? hello all, got my booster for +/- 1 year now, not used much last week: no movement at all, opened the booster and the piston rod was blocked in the brass cylinder: a small chip of brass was stuck between (I do have an inlet filter) took everything apart, brass part total loss new part is beeing produced locally (belgium) (shipping cost to canada is bigger than making new part here) I asked around, and some other people also got this problem is it a known problem with the baby-booster??? how can it be prevented? regards paul
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30th August 2005, 06:11	#2 (permalink)
*Beanie* give a man an inch....... Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,174	have you got any pictures? I've not taken mine apart so not sure quite what your eplaining mine has been mostly trouble free the only issue so far has been that it stutters sometimes __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk
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30th August 2005, 06:46	#3 (permalink)
wizbang WEB MERMEN Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Vision Evolution Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Perth Australia Posts: 386	I have had only the one glitch. I had a little bit of metal (steel I think) caught under one of the reed valves. I read through the manual and took it apart, found the culprit (and its stain) and then after working out I & O put it all back together and it has worked flawlessly since. I do love it, but it should come with a He analyser for the same price, because I have to save up for one now. :-( Sorry to hear about your slightly bigger glitch.
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30th August 2005, 08:13	#4 (permalink)
PeteS Consent Issued! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 533	Quote: (Originally Posted by paulraymaekers) got my booster for +/- 1 year now, not used much last week: no movement at all, opened the booster and the piston rod was blocked in the brass cylinder: a small chip of brass was stuck between (I do have an inlet filter) took everything apart, brass part total loss new part is beeing produced locally (belgium) (shipping cost to canada is bigger than making new part here) I asked around, and some other people also got this problem is it a known problem with the baby-booster??? how can it be prevented? Take a look at :- http://www.steggle.co.nz/html/baby_booster.html I think that's what you mean. Mine just ground to a halt and when I took it apart, that's what I found. If algnment between all the parts was good, the brass cylinder should not be a bearing surface, but it is. So alignment isn't good, if you know what I mean. Kiss did say send it back, but the cost of shipping........ Prevention? Buy a Haskel! In truth though, my baby booster did do a lot of boosting very well for me all around the world. But every now and then it would just stop with no apparent cause. I say no apparent cause, but I think it is the little valves that operate at the end of the stroke not working reliably. Or the Humphry valve, which regularly used to have ice on it. Full strip and rebuild and off it went again. __________________ Pete S. http://www.steggle.co.nz Every silver lining has a cloud
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30th August 2005, 17:03	#5 (permalink)
paulraymaekers rEvo's daddy Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Join Date: May 2005 Location: belgium Posts: 1,501	"Take a look at :- http://www.steggle.co.nz/html/baby_booster.html" this is exactly what I got, but much worse: deeper than your pictures the piston rod was clamped in the brass cylinder, I had to take it out with a 'puller' new part made by local shop: works ok now let's hope long :-) regards paul
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30th August 2005, 17:23	#6 (permalink)
DrJM Deep Cave Explorer Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Join Date: May 2005 Location: France Posts: 344	Been there also Paul and had same prob, sent it back ($$$) to Gordon and he fixed it ... cf Maximator.de cheaper and no more humphrey !!!
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30th August 2005, 22:00	#7 (permalink)
jdz Prism Cave Diver Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 219	Quote: (Originally Posted by DrJM) Been there also Paul and had same prob, sent it back ($$$) to Gordon and he fixed it ... cf Maximator.de cheaper and no more humphrey !!! Sorry Jerome, I am not understanding you, are you saying that the Maximators are much more expensive?? and expensive to service/repair? What price are the maximator units in Europe... ? Cheers, JDZ
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6th September 2005, 17:50	#8 (permalink)
plazma New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Oulu, Finland Posts: 104	Quote: (Originally Posted by DrJM) cf Maximator.de cheaper and no more humphrey !!! What model do you have? How much did it cost?
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14th September 2005, 19:31	#9 (permalink)
plazma New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Oulu, Finland Posts: 104	Maximator boosters are really expensive. Model DLE 30-1 costs 2766e.
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14th September 2005, 20:08	#10 (permalink)
Philippe GERIN ccr apprentice Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Strasbourg, France Posts: 636	Quote: (Originally Posted by plazma) Maximator boosters are really expensive. Model DLE 30-1 costs 2766e. For info: I was quoted $2490 FOB by Maxprotech in the US for model DLE 30-1-01E to the following specs: 16¾" x 10½" x 6.63 wide 38 pounds 30:1 pressure ratio 4640 psi maximum 20:1 compression ratio 300 series stainless body, cylinder, piston, PTFE/viton seals, ceramic check valve balls Lead time: 1 week. Not cheap but you get what you pay for. Overkill for me anyway. Best Philippe
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