Which Booster?

Outlaw · 28th July 2007, 14:53

hello guys,

i am just about to make my purchase. as it is my first buy of a booster, for me, its as if am doing the purchase of the century. i was going to get the jetsam baby booster, but last minute my attention was drawn to the haskel mini sport booster and then i saw the stansted DTB5C....

So, which one do you think would be best for me, and why? Anyone care to back up his arguments with some fotos of his unit, would be very nice.

Come on guys, gimme all you can....in a couple of days i must make the order....

Thanks in advance.

Spyros

4ster · 28th July 2007, 16:22

I have no complaints of my Jetsam baby booster. It is small, travels well, and is about as field serviceable as any piece of dive gear can get, although mine has been bolted to the wall of my mixing station its whole life. As long as you are filling small Rebreather cylinders it seems a good size, I have to be careful not to boost too fast most of the time. Lately, I have been using a portable electric oil-less compressor to power mine with no problems so far.

Is the Haskel a better booster? - probably based on reputation (and price). The Stansted DTB5C looks like a good unit also. I like that they designed the DTB5C to use just about anything for a drive gas.

I have to admit one of the deciding factors for me was that Jetsam is relatively close. I could actually drive to their location in under 2 hours. Practically, that isn't really much of an issue with the world as small as it is now. Jetsam responds quickly to email and I have had one, friendly, long telephone call with tech support. I ordered a rebuild kit so I will be better equiped to service the booster when the time comes, it arrived a couple of days after ordering.

Outlaw · 28th July 2007, 16:28

Jetsam baby booster =1 , others= 0

Cheers mate,

Spyros

colinicky · 28th July 2007, 19:23

Again I have the baby booster from Jetsam & it gets used for everything .I house the club compressor & the O2 /He ,so it gets used for boosting into twin 12's ,single 15's etc .I had one issue with it & emails were answered as soon as they started work & once I got my head round the time difference (UK) Parts arrived in a matter of days with no problem & when it looked as if I might have to return it they emailed all the relavent paperwork to avoid customs problems .

kiwidiver · 28th July 2007, 20:00

haskel is a better made pump,From memory I think the stansted only has a boost ratio of 15:1 something to consider.

Benthic · 28th July 2007, 20:02

I'll cast another vote for the Jetsam Baby Booster. Ours works like a champ. We've been using it around the house for several months now for all our Rebreather filling needs. It has travelled to the NC coast with a friend and worked fine for him, and it's about to accompany us on a trip to the Tortugas next week. While on the boat it will handle the filling needs for several rebreather divers. It fits nicely in a pelican case together with the necessary whips, adaptors, and a drive regulator.

I have no experience with the others you mentioned, so I can't be of any help there.

Brian

Outlaw · 28th July 2007, 20:13

Quote: (Originally Posted by colinicky)

Again I have the baby booster from Jetsam & it gets used for everything .I house the club compressor & the O2 /He ,so it gets used for boosting into twin 12's ,single 15's etc .I had one issue with it & emails were answered as soon as they started work & once I got my head round the time difference (UK) Parts arrived in a matter of days with no problem & when it looked as if I might have to return it they emailed all the relavent paperwork to avoid customs problems .

hello mate,

thanks for replying with such helpful information.

do you mean you have filled 12 L and 15 L tanks with the baby booster? was it fine? did it just use more drive gas? interesting to know.

so far i think the jetsam booster is a hot favourite...

Cheers to all for the information.

i think now is jetsam =3, haskel=1 stanstead = 0

Spyros

PeteS · 28th July 2007, 20:56

Quote: (Originally Posted by Outlaw)

do you mean you have filled 12 L and 15 L tanks with the baby booster? was it fine? did it just use more drive gas? interesting to know.

so far i think the jetsam booster is a hot favourite...

I've run both the Jetsam and a Haskel.

Jetsam.

For:-
Cost. Simple, easy to field service (needs to be). Travels well to far flung places (Small and light). For what it does, drive gas consumption is good.

Against:-
Trouble with valves clogging. O2 seal wears rapidly. Not much in the way os seals between drive gas and driven gas, so you need to keep the drive gas CLEAN. And it really is a good thing it's field servicable, but all the fittings are in inches and far flung places tend to work in metric. Has trouble much over 200 bar.

Haskel - AGD30

For:-
Build quality, leaves the Jetsam way behind. Good seals between driving and driven gasses with vented chambers. It can boost to whatever pressure you want. You can drive it with whatever you want. Aftercooler using exhaust drive gas keeps things cold. Boost and drive gas consumption rates are good, provided you "cascade boost". It just works and works and works. Doesn't need to be field servicable, but I think you could at a push.

Against:-
Cost, nearly 4x the jetsam cost. Drive gas consumption if you try to go from low to high gas pressures in one step. It can easily boost gas to pressure waaaay beyond what you want. Heavy, not flyable. Probably not field servicable.

Overall I'd say that if I wanted to fly around the world the Jetsam would win, but take some spares (seals, bushes, pistons) and tools with you. But if you were static, or boosting a lot of gas, the Haskel wins. The Haskel was definately a step up from the Jetsam, but at a cost, and not a completely financial cost. It all depends on what you want to do and how much cash you've got.

colinicky · 28th July 2007, 23:07

Quote: (Originally Posted by Outlaw)

hello mate,

thanks for replying with such helpful information.

do you mean you have filled 12 L and 15 L tanks with the baby booster? was it fine? did it just use more drive gas? interesting to know.

so far i think the jetsam booster is a hot favourite...

Cheers to all for the information.

i think now is jetsam =3, haskel=1 stanstead = 0

Spyros

I have used it to boost O2 into twin 12's for doing nitrox mixs for oc guys ,I use it for tx mixs & top ups of tx mixs .Some people say it is no good for He but I have not had any problems yet in 2 years .In that time I had a problem early on with a dirty valve but the previous owner had not put a filter on the O2 inlet hose like Jetsam recommend (think this is standard now ) after fitting one no problems .I can get to 200bar quite easily even with a low O2 source but to get above 200 you need a fairly full J of O2 to start from .even then you will only get to 230bar in my experience .Yes it takes a lot of drive gas on twin 12's or if your supply J is low & you are going high .I normally send J's back with less than 15 bar in so not a lot of wastage .

HTH

Bech · 29th July 2007, 07:33

Hello,

Because you are in Europe and to avoid inches-metric problem with the jetsam, maybe you should consider also this one :

http://www.mavotec.de/fileadmin/info...umpe%20ROB.pdf

Maximator Rob22 (same idea as the jetsam I think), it is german made...made to work.

Raph

28th July 2007, 14:53	#1 (permalink)
Outlaw In search of Law breaking Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cyprus, Nicosia Posts: 634	Which Booster? hello guys, i am just about to make my purchase. as it is my first buy of a booster, for me, its as if am doing the purchase of the century. i was going to get the jetsam baby booster, but last minute my attention was drawn to the haskel mini sport booster and then i saw the stansted DTB5C.... So, which one do you think would be best for me, and why? Anyone care to back up his arguments with some fotos of his unit, would be very nice. Come on guys, gimme all you can....in a couple of days i must make the order.... Thanks in advance. Spyros __________________ CMAS - IANTD - TDI Kamikazi Instrustor Trainer DIRRebreather Team Member ---------------------------- "Once an Outlaw, always an Outlaw"
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28th July 2007, 16:22	#2 (permalink)
4ster Steve Sprague Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arlington, Washington Posts: 294	Re: Which Booster? I have no complaints of my Jetsam baby booster. It is small, travels well, and is about as field serviceable as any piece of dive gear can get, although mine has been bolted to the wall of my mixing station its whole life. As long as you are filling small Rebreather cylinders it seems a good size, I have to be careful not to boost too fast most of the time. Lately, I have been using a portable electric oil-less compressor to power mine with no problems so far. Is the Haskel a better booster? - probably based on reputation (and price). The Stansted DTB5C looks like a good unit also. I like that they designed the DTB5C to use just about anything for a drive gas. I have to admit one of the deciding factors for me was that Jetsam is relatively close. I could actually drive to their location in under 2 hours. Practically, that isn't really much of an issue with the world as small as it is now. Jetsam responds quickly to email and I have had one, friendly, long telephone call with tech support. I ordered a rebuild kit so I will be better equiped to service the booster when the time comes, it arrived a couple of days after ordering. __________________ Steve "My problem is that I have trouble reconciling my gross habits with my net income." Errol Flynn
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28th July 2007, 16:28	#3 (permalink)
Outlaw In search of Law breaking Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cyprus, Nicosia Posts: 634	Re: Which Booster? Jetsam baby booster =1 , others= 0 Cheers mate, Spyros __________________ CMAS - IANTD - TDI Kamikazi Instrustor Trainer DIRRebreather Team Member ---------------------------- "Once an Outlaw, always an Outlaw"
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28th July 2007, 19:23	#4 (permalink)
colinicky Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: uk Posts: 667	Re: Which Booster? Again I have the baby booster from Jetsam & it gets used for everything .I house the club compressor & the O2 /He ,so it gets used for boosting into twin 12's ,single 15's etc .I had one issue with it & emails were answered as soon as they started work & once I got my head round the time difference (UK) Parts arrived in a matter of days with no problem & when it looked as if I might have to return it they emailed all the relavent paperwork to avoid customs problems . __________________ Colin I trust my rebreather completely , I just don't trust the user onwards & downwards
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28th July 2007, 20:00	#5 (permalink)
kiwidiver Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new zealand Posts: 136	Re: Which Booster? haskel is a better made pump,From memory I think the stansted only has a boost ratio of 15:1 something to consider.
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28th July 2007, 20:02	#6 (permalink)
Benthic MEGalomaniac Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pensacola, FL USA Posts: 224	Re: Which Booster? I'll cast another vote for the Jetsam Baby Booster. Ours works like a champ. We've been using it around the house for several months now for all our Rebreather filling needs. It has travelled to the NC coast with a friend and worked fine for him, and it's about to accompany us on a trip to the Tortugas next week. While on the boat it will handle the filling needs for several rebreather divers. It fits nicely in a pelican case together with the necessary whips, adaptors, and a drive regulator. I have no experience with the others you mentioned, so I can't be of any help there. Brian __________________ Well lit rooms will not repel determined beer ninjas.
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28th July 2007, 20:13	#7 (permalink)
Outlaw In search of Law breaking Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cyprus, Nicosia Posts: 634	Re: Which Booster? Quote: (Originally Posted by colinicky) Again I have the baby booster from Jetsam & it gets used for everything .I house the club compressor & the O2 /He ,so it gets used for boosting into twin 12's ,single 15's etc .I had one issue with it & emails were answered as soon as they started work & once I got my head round the time difference (UK) Parts arrived in a matter of days with no problem & when it looked as if I might have to return it they emailed all the relavent paperwork to avoid customs problems . hello mate, thanks for replying with such helpful information. do you mean you have filled 12 L and 15 L tanks with the baby booster? was it fine? did it just use more drive gas? interesting to know. so far i think the jetsam booster is a hot favourite... Cheers to all for the information. i think now is jetsam =3, haskel=1 stanstead = 0 Spyros __________________ CMAS - IANTD - TDI Kamikazi Instrustor Trainer DIRRebreather Team Member ---------------------------- "Once an Outlaw, always an Outlaw" Last edited by Outlaw : 28th July 2007 at 20:14. Reason: missed a word
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28th July 2007, 20:56	#8 (permalink)
PeteS Consent Issued! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 533	Re: Which Booster? Quote: (Originally Posted by Outlaw) do you mean you have filled 12 L and 15 L tanks with the baby booster? was it fine? did it just use more drive gas? interesting to know. so far i think the jetsam booster is a hot favourite... I've run both the Jetsam and a Haskel. Jetsam. For:- Cost. Simple, easy to field service (needs to be). Travels well to far flung places (Small and light). For what it does, drive gas consumption is good. Against:- Trouble with valves clogging. O2 seal wears rapidly. Not much in the way os seals between drive gas and driven gas, so you need to keep the drive gas CLEAN. And it really is a good thing it's field servicable, but all the fittings are in inches and far flung places tend to work in metric. Has trouble much over 200 bar. Haskel - AGD30 For:- Build quality, leaves the Jetsam way behind. Good seals between driving and driven gasses with vented chambers. It can boost to whatever pressure you want. You can drive it with whatever you want. Aftercooler using exhaust drive gas keeps things cold. Boost and drive gas consumption rates are good, provided you "cascade boost". It just works and works and works. Doesn't need to be field servicable, but I think you could at a push. Against:- Cost, nearly 4x the jetsam cost. Drive gas consumption if you try to go from low to high gas pressures in one step. It can easily boost gas to pressure waaaay beyond what you want. Heavy, not flyable. Probably not field servicable. Overall I'd say that if I wanted to fly around the world the Jetsam would win, but take some spares (seals, bushes, pistons) and tools with you. But if you were static, or boosting a lot of gas, the Haskel wins. The Haskel was definately a step up from the Jetsam, but at a cost, and not a completely financial cost. It all depends on what you want to do and how much cash you've got. __________________ Pete S. http://www.steggle.co.nz Every silver lining has a cloud
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28th July 2007, 23:07	#9 (permalink)
colinicky Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: uk Posts: 667	Re: Which Booster? Quote: (Originally Posted by Outlaw) hello mate, thanks for replying with such helpful information. do you mean you have filled 12 L and 15 L tanks with the baby booster? was it fine? did it just use more drive gas? interesting to know. so far i think the jetsam booster is a hot favourite... Cheers to all for the information. i think now is jetsam =3, haskel=1 stanstead = 0 Spyros I have used it to boost O2 into twin 12's for doing nitrox mixs for oc guys ,I use it for tx mixs & top ups of tx mixs .Some people say it is no good for He but I have not had any problems yet in 2 years .In that time I had a problem early on with a dirty valve but the previous owner had not put a filter on the O2 inlet hose like Jetsam recommend (think this is standard now ) after fitting one no problems .I can get to 200bar quite easily even with a low O2 source but to get above 200 you need a fairly full J of O2 to start from .even then you will only get to 230bar in my experience .Yes it takes a lot of drive gas on twin 12's or if your supply J is low & you are going high .I normally send J's back with less than 15 bar in so not a lot of wastage . HTH __________________ Colin I trust my rebreather completely , I just don't trust the user onwards & downwards
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Bech New Member Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 41	Re: Which Booster? Hello, Because you are in Europe and to avoid inches-metric problem with the jetsam, maybe you should consider also this one : http://www.mavotec.de/fileadmin/info...umpe%20ROB.pdf Maximator Rob22 (same idea as the jetsam I think), it is german made...made to work. Raph
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