Which 02 Decanting Hose Kit

iratnl · 9th March 2007, 06:06

Well, I've received my Whip from Dive Life (v. nice it is too), and did my first O2 transfill yesterday evening. The needle valve kept the flow rate down, and everything went fine. The only thing that surprised me was the NOISE !!!

During the 20 minute fill, I had every note from A flat to E sharp, and at one stage, some sort of resonance occurred, and the whole thing sounded like the bit in 'Das Boot' when the pressure hull was about to implode ! I mean, it was LOUD !!

Is this normal

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***Beanie*** · 9th March 2007, 07:25

Quote: (Originally Posted by iratnl)

Well, I've received my Whip from Dive Life (v. nice it is too), and did my first O2 transfill yesterday evening. The needle valve kept the flow rate down, and everything went fine. The only thing that surprised me was the NOISE !!!

During the 20 minute fill, I had every note from A flat to E sharp, and at one stage, some sort of resonance occurred, and the whole thing sounded like the bit in 'Das Boot' when the pressure hull was about to implode ! I mean, it was LOUD !!

Is this normal

.

yep

its the one way valves, both the one in the J and the one in the whip

you can tune your blending by the note

Woz · 9th March 2007, 08:45

Quote: (Originally Posted by steevke)

According to Keller the ECO1 is NOT suited for O2 use. They have another version (ECO2) that is suited for oxygen use - it's about 25 EUR/15£ more expensive. Maybe it's just a form of 'dive-tax' but I decided to buy the ECO2 anyway...

steven

That's odd cos they told me it was but the adapter (which you don't use) would need to be O2 cleaned. The ECO1 was also the gauge supplied as part of the SAP digital blending setup.

**Gill Envy** · 9th March 2007, 15:28

Quote: (Originally Posted by kevin stone)

Are your 13's Lp? If so how many trans fills can you get from the 80 if your 13's are down to say 500psi before you cant get a decent fill.
Thanks
Kevin

Kevin,
the 13's are AP's, rated to 2,700 psi. We have two 13's for o2 per evo. the 80 is rated to 3,300 psi. On the first go round I get a complete fill on one set and put them aside for when I truly need full fills. then I get a fill to something like 2,300 psi. dive them down to about 400 psi and refill. Once the 80 gets down to 1,000 or when i need both sets filled to 2700, i go back for top off's of the 80. Our dives around here in the cold pacific north west waters are about 90 min tops. I believe I get 6-10 fills betweeen top offs. Have considered o2 cleaning another one of my al 80's to have it on stand by for higher pressure top offs but have not had the need yet. this works for us because our dives are not super long...if we were doing really long dives with larger tanks weed need a booster.

**kevin stone** · 13th March 2007, 21:42

Quote: (Originally Posted by Gill Envy)

Kevin,
the 13's are AP's, rated to 2,700 psi. We have two 13's for o2 per evo. the 80 is rated to 3,300 psi. On the first go round I get a complete fill on one set and put them aside for when I truly need full fills. then I get a fill to something like 2,300 psi. dive them down to about 400 psi and refill. Once the 80 gets down to 1,000 or when i need both sets filled to 2700, i go back for top off's of the 80. Our dives around here in the cold pacific north west waters are about 90 min tops. I believe I get 6-10 fills betweeen top offs. Have considered o2 cleaning another one of my al 80's to have it on stand by for higher pressure top offs but have not had the need yet. this works for us because our dives are not super long...if we were doing really long dives with larger tanks weed need a booster.

Thanks for the info
I have a couple of Al80s and I think I will try it your way until I save up enough for a booster
Kevin

fubari · 14th March 2007, 00:59

fwiw, Ron has a nice setup - I'm quite happy with mine.

Quote: (Originally Posted by RonMicjan)

here is a pic of the deluxe kit with a digital gauge. My analog gauges are in PSI, but I can get BAR for additional monies. For $718 I can do the kit with a multi unit digital gauge that does BAR, as well as 7 other chinese languages.

this pic is old, I am using Ashcroft gauges and a much better needle valve now from Parker.

9th March 2007, 06:06	#21 (permalink)
iratnl Tecreational Diver Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Eastbourne, UK Posts: 112	Re: Which 02 Decanting Hose Kit Well, I've received my Whip from Dive Life (v. nice it is too), and did my first O2 transfill yesterday evening. The needle valve kept the flow rate down, and everything went fine. The only thing that surprised me was the NOISE !!! During the 20 minute fill, I had every note from A flat to E sharp, and at one stage, some sort of resonance occurred, and the whole thing sounded like the bit in 'Das Boot' when the pressure hull was about to implode ! I mean, it was LOUD !! Is this normal .
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9th March 2007, 07:25	#22 (permalink)
*Beanie* give a man an inch....... Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,174	Re: Which 02 Decanting Hose Kit Quote: (Originally Posted by iratnl) Well, I've received my Whip from Dive Life (v. nice it is too), and did my first O2 transfill yesterday evening. The needle valve kept the flow rate down, and everything went fine. The only thing that surprised me was the NOISE !!! During the 20 minute fill, I had every note from A flat to E sharp, and at one stage, some sort of resonance occurred, and the whole thing sounded like the bit in 'Das Boot' when the pressure hull was about to implode ! I mean, it was LOUD !! Is this normal . yep its the one way valves, both the one in the J and the one in the whip you can tune your blending by the note __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk
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9th March 2007, 08:45	#23 (permalink)
Woz Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nottingham Posts: 185	Re: Which 02 Decanting Hose Kit Quote: (Originally Posted by steevke) According to Keller the ECO1 is NOT suited for O2 use. They have another version (ECO2) that is suited for oxygen use - it's about 25 EUR/15£ more expensive. Maybe it's just a form of 'dive-tax' but I decided to buy the ECO2 anyway... steven That's odd cos they told me it was but the adapter (which you don't use) would need to be O2 cleaned. The ECO1 was also the gauge supplied as part of the SAP digital blending setup. __________________ Still punting shiny diving tatt to gullible divers www.kitfondle.co.uk
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9th March 2007, 15:28	#24 (permalink)
Gill Envy Shearwater Copis Divers Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Other CCR Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: seattle Posts: 1,314	Re: Which 02 Decanting Hose Kit Quote: (Originally Posted by kevin stone) Are your 13's Lp? If so how many trans fills can you get from the 80 if your 13's are down to say 500psi before you cant get a decent fill. Thanks Kevin Kevin, the 13's are AP's, rated to 2,700 psi. We have two 13's for o2 per evo. the 80 is rated to 3,300 psi. On the first go round I get a complete fill on one set and put them aside for when I truly need full fills. then I get a fill to something like 2,300 psi. dive them down to about 400 psi and refill. Once the 80 gets down to 1,000 or when i need both sets filled to 2700, i go back for top off's of the 80. Our dives around here in the cold pacific north west waters are about 90 min tops. I believe I get 6-10 fills betweeen top offs. Have considered o2 cleaning another one of my al 80's to have it on stand by for higher pressure top offs but have not had the need yet. this works for us because our dives are not super long...if we were doing really long dives with larger tanks weed need a booster. __________________ Gill Envy ...Because I wasn't born with gills! ><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>
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13th March 2007, 21:42	#25 (permalink)
kevin stone Supporting Member Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: us ct. Posts: 215	Re: Which 02 Decanting Hose Kit Quote: (Originally Posted by Gill Envy) Kevin, the 13's are AP's, rated to 2,700 psi. We have two 13's for o2 per evo. the 80 is rated to 3,300 psi. On the first go round I get a complete fill on one set and put them aside for when I truly need full fills. then I get a fill to something like 2,300 psi. dive them down to about 400 psi and refill. Once the 80 gets down to 1,000 or when i need both sets filled to 2700, i go back for top off's of the 80. Our dives around here in the cold pacific north west waters are about 90 min tops. I believe I get 6-10 fills betweeen top offs. Have considered o2 cleaning another one of my al 80's to have it on stand by for higher pressure top offs but have not had the need yet. this works for us because our dives are not super long...if we were doing really long dives with larger tanks weed need a booster. Thanks for the info I have a couple of Al80s and I think I will try it your way until I save up enough for a booster Kevin
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14th March 2007, 00:59	#26 (permalink)
fubari New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 113	Re: Which 02 Decanting Hose Kit fwiw, Ron has a nice setup - I'm quite happy with mine. Quote: (Originally Posted by RonMicjan) here is a pic of the deluxe kit with a digital gauge. My analog gauges are in PSI, but I can get BAR for additional monies. For $718 I can do the kit with a multi unit digital gauge that does BAR, as well as 7 other chinese languages. this pic is old, I am using Ashcroft gauges and a much better needle valve now from Parker.
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