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| Gadget guru extrordinaire Current Rebreather/s: | Re: Dolphin mCCR training Don't know if one Rebreather is better then the other, don't know if the dolphin makes a good or a bad ccr. Jean,all that I know is that a good configuration makes a good diver/machine unit. I would never change my ccr dolphin for a commercial ccr, but it took me a ******g long time to fing the rigth configuration. regards jean mi I'm glad to hear the Dolphin is working out for you. I'm hoping that when I'm ready, it will work out for me as well. I've been reading a lot on what Ron Micjan and Kim Meineche have done, and it seems fairly straight forward, but, it isn't off the shelf. Even the off the shelf ones seem to need quite a bit of customization from what I can tell. My biggest concern is training, because I don't want to strap a death machine on my back if I don't know how to use it properly, whether I built it, converted it, or bought a commerical unit. |
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| wet bear ![]() Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: May 2006 Location: cannes france
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Dolphin mCCR training Now just where do you come off from? My converted Dolphin was cheaper than a KISS. How do you figure anyone will live longer buying a canned unit over a conversion or homebuilt? Salut Dale,The conversions and homebuilt units usually mean their owners are far more in tune with what makes a safe unit. The knowledge required to make or convert far exceeds that which you would get in any canned training programme as well. Dale j'étais sur que tu réagirais comme cela (((-: mais bon Dale tu sais que ton dolphin converti est au dessus de la moyenne des dolphins convertis ((-: translation for the others , I was sure you would say that (((-:, but your converted dolphin quality is well above the average of the converted dolphins.((-: regards good to read your posts from time to time , it reminds me the old and good time of armachair diving (((-: regards amitiés jean mi |
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| Who loves ya, baby ![]() ![]() Current Rebreather/s: | Re: Dolphin mCCR training The Kiss training recommedation is a good one IMHO. I also believe it would be worthwhile to contact Ron Micjan, either here at Rebreather World or through his website http://www.tmishop.com/ Ron converted a Dolphin, also dives Kiss CCRs, and is an instructor for them, as well as the manually controlled COPIS Meg. Lots of experience, top reputation, and at least for a while he was working on putting together training for CCR Dolphin conversions (no certification, but training ... the more important of the two ).Before you get to work on a Dolphin and a conversion, do consider any of the above mentioned mCCRs in the first place. IMHO all of them are of higher quality than the Dolphin, same applies to the rEvo mCCR. They also have considerably better customer service than Dräger/Aqualung.
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| wet bear ![]() Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: May 2006 Location: cannes france
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Dolphin mCCR training Jean, Well,I'm glad to hear the Dolphin is working out for you. I'm hoping that when I'm ready, it will work out for me as well. I've been reading a lot on what Ron Micjan and Kim Meineche have done, and it seems fairly straight forward, but, it isn't off the shelf. Even the off the shelf ones seem to need quite a bit of customization from what I can tell. My biggest concern is training, because I don't want to strap a death machine on my back if I don't know how to use it properly, whether I built it, converted it, or bought a commerical unit. I don't see how you could built a death machine, now dolphin conversion are just plug and play games, a couple of years ago It took me 1 year to make a good ccr dolphin. I recently converted a dolphin for my buddy with tecme part , ok it costed him 1000 euros , i did the conversion in one hour !!!!!! so if you have a dolphin, and enough money to buy parts.....ask martin at tecme or an other one (I HAVE NO SHARE AT MARTIN'S BUSINESS) and do it rigth. tecme sells , good sensor holders (3 sensors) , triple ppo2 meters, hydrogom valves , fixed MP regulators, and all the connectors to plug all of that . as phi said, as dave said (it great to see them ok together (((-: ....) take a kiss course and dive (((-: the dolphin is not only good for me, it is a good rebreather , well modified it can make a good ccr. of course if you are a good handyman, you will be able to reduce the mod price, but it will reduce your diving time (((-: regards jean mi |
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| wet bear ![]() Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: May 2006 Location: cannes france
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Dolphin mCCR training The Kiss training recommedation is a good one IMHO. the question is , do you already own your dolphin ?I also believe it would be worthwhile to contact Ron Micjan, either here at Rebreather World or through his website CCR Dolphin Ron converted a Dolphin, also dives Kiss CCRs, and is an instructor for them, as well as the manually controlled COPIS Meg. Lots of experience, top reputation, and at least for a while he was working on putting together training for CCR Dolphin conversions (no certification, but training ... the more important of the two ).Before you get to work on a Dolphin and a conversion, do consider any of the above mentioned mCCRs in the first place. IMHO all of them are of higher quality than the Dolphin, same applies to the rEvo mCCR. They also have considerably better customer service than Dräger/Aqualung. in case you do, it can be worth buying the conversion parts to kiss it , otherwise as a matter of fact you could mabye find a kiss or kiss style for a descent price..but as dale says it is not sure. regards jean mi |
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| Gadget guru extrordinaire Current Rebreather/s: | Re: Dolphin mCCR training Well, Jean,I don't see how you could built a death machine, now dolphin conversion are just plug and play games, a couple of years ago It took me 1 year to make a good ccr dolphin. I recently converted a dolphin for my buddy with tecme part , ok it costed him 1000 euros , i did the conversion in one hour !!!!!! so if you have a dolphin, and enough money to buy parts.....ask martin at tecme or an other one (I HAVE NO SHARE AT MARTIN'S BUSINESS) and do it rigth. tecme sells , good sensor holders (3 sensors) , triple ppo2 meters, hydrogom valves , fixed MP regulators, and all the connectors to plug all of that . as phi said, as dave said (it great to see them ok together (((-: ....) take a kiss course and dive (((-: the dolphin is not only good for me, it is a good rebreather , well modified it can make a good ccr. of course if you are a good handyman, you will be able to reduce the mod price, but it will reduce your diving time (((-: regards jean mi I didn't mean to say the Dolphin mCCR is a death machine. I just meant that any piece of scuba equipment, especially without proper training, has the potential to be one. Also, I had already come across Martin's kit, and that's most likely what I would purchase. Actually, I think he's selling various levels of the kits, and they start around €400. Of course, if I buy his stainless steel shell on top of it, it'll start adding up. I'd also have to buy an O2 monitor and housing, which probably is another €600 as well. I have been doing my reading. Something has to make the time pass at work! |
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| wet bear ![]() Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: May 2006 Location: cannes france
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Dolphin mCCR training Jean, do you really need a stainless stell shell.I didn't mean to say the Dolphin mCCR is a death machine. I just meant that any piece of scuba equipment, especially without proper training, has the potential to be one. Also, I had already come across Martin's kit, and that's most likely what I would purchase. Actually, I think he's selling various levels of the kits, and they start around €400. Of course, if I buy his stainless steel shell on top of it, it'll start adding up. I'd also have to buy an O2 monitor and housing, which probably is another €600 as well. I have been doing my reading. Something has to make the time pass at work! You could begin with the original shell. afterward is is dirty but not deficult to make a fiberglass one in the garage (wait for summer to do it outdoor don't do t indoor or your wife will be furiuos !!!). what I can tell you is that martin's stuff is great and easy to handle, I only can tell of thos parts cause i have never used other ones execpt then industrial one from swagelock (needle valves, hoses , filter, etc). but industrial stuff is not nice, difficut to adapt etc. when I first converted my dolphin no plug and play stuff existed, only gordon was selling his first kiss valve. except from that all had to be home made, machine, etc. ow it is easiyer. but is it worth to do it given the price of the parts plus the dolphin price itself ? if you own the dolphin , buy the parts and convert it , if you don't....count... the price of a converted dolphin and of a sport kiss can be not too far. and it is good to take the machine and dive it (after training f course). regards jean mi |
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| Gadget guru extrordinaire Current Rebreather/s: | Re: Dolphin mCCR training do you really need a stainless stell shell. You could begin with the original shell. afterward is is dirty but not deficult to make a fiberglass one in the garage (wait for summer to do it outdoor don't do t indoor or your wife will be furiuos !!!). what I can tell you is that martin's stuff is great and easy to handle, I only can tell of thos parts cause i have never used other ones execpt then industrial one from swagelock (needle valves, hoses , filter, etc). but industrial stuff is not nice, difficut to adapt etc. when I first converted my dolphin no plug and play stuff existed, only gordon was selling his first kiss valve. except from that all had to be home made, machine, etc. ow it is easiyer. but is it worth to do it given the price of the parts plus the dolphin price itself ? if you own the dolphin , buy the parts and convert it , if you don't....count... the price of a converted dolphin and of a sport kiss can be not too far. and it is good to take the machine and dive it (after training f course). regards jean mi No, I don't need a stainless steel shell, no matter how cool it is. ![]() |
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| CCR Instructor Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Optima Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: FL, USA
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![]() | Re: Dolphin mCCR training Yeah, that's what I was trying to prevent. I wasn't sure if there was any training that would get me ready to dive the Dolphin in CCR mode. I'll look into KISS training. Hopefully there is some in my area. Hey, get the boys at Columbia to order you the TDI KISS student manual. That will get you started on the path.Ciao |
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| Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Dolphin mCCR training ...order you the TDI KISS student manual... Or the ANDI KISS manual as they are both nicely written. I have read both...TDI manual = Mel Clark (scubagrunt) ANDI manual = Joe Radomski (jradomski)
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