voyager v1 tek

**jmurba** · 12th May 2008, 08:35

Hi all,

does anybody exactly knows how the v1-tek rebreather (voyager) works ?:

Diving Equipement

the site says it is a ccr , is it a kiss , a premixer ?

regards

jean mi

Devils Advocate · 12th May 2008, 09:45

Hi Jean,
the Voyager range of rebreathers have undergone quite a few changes over the past few months. Originally the company was called Aquatek, but they have changed the name of the company to HBT ( Human Breathing Technology) The website is Human Breathing Technology They have being doing a lot of work lately with DAN Europe and Pascal Barnaby.
They have a few different versions of the Voyager available. The Sport is a pre mixed SCR unit with constant flow orifice. This can be changed by the diver before the dive to suit dive depth and nitrox mix.
The Voyager Modular is a fully closed circuit rebreather. It is between a Kiss and a Pelagian in concept. The O2 is a continious flow design but is controlled by a needle valve. This has to be set before the dive and cannot be changed during the dive like the Pelagian ( i am working on it though) It is a very modular design in that the cylinders can be either way up. For trim purposes in a wetsuit i have the cylinders deinverted with manual Dil and O2 valves coming over my shoulder like the 'Boris. It works well and is infact a very well made unit. It also has a dump valve on the base of the scrubber like the Sentinel to vent water in the event of a flood.
The company are making a prototype at the moment with an unusuall scrubber desing that should be interesting.

Hope this helps.

Aaron.

**jmurba** · 12th May 2008, 09:56

Quote: (Originally Posted by Devils Advocate)

Hi Jean,
the Voyager range of rebreathers have undergone quite a few changes over the past few months. Originally the company was called Aquatek, but they have changed the name of the company to HBT ( Human Breathing Technology) The website is Human Breathing Technology They have being doing a lot of work lately with DAN Europe and Pascal Barnaby.
They have a few different versions of the Voyager available. The Sport is a pre mixed SCR unit with constant flow orifice. This can be changed by the diver before the dive to suit dive depth and nitrox mix.
The Voyager Modular is a fully closed circuit rebreather. It is between a Kiss and a Pelagian in concept. The O2 is a continious flow design but is controlled by a needle valve. This has to be set before the dive and cannot be changed during the dive like the Pelagian ( i am working on it though) It is a very modular design in that the cylinders can be either way up. For trim purposes in a wetsuit i have the cylinders deinverted with manual Dil and O2 valves coming over my shoulder like the 'Boris. It works well and is infact a very well made unit. It also has a dump valve on the base of the scrubber like the Sentinel to vent water in the event of a flood.
The company are making a prototype at the moment with an unusuall scrubber desing that should be interesting.

Hope this helps.

Aaron.

Hi aaron,
interresting even I did not understand fully what you tried to explain to me
so there is an o2 flow rate, and is there a diluant flow rate or is the dil added by an adv or a manual demand valve ?
what do you mean by beetwen the kiss and the pelagian ?
regards
jean mi

paulraymaekers · 12th May 2008, 09:56

Quote: (Originally Posted by Devils Advocate)

Hi Jean,
the Voyager range of rebreathers have undergone quite a few changes over the past few months. Originally the company was called Aquatek, but they have changed the name of the company to HBT ( Human Breathing Technology) The website is Human Breathing Technology They have being doing a lot of work lately with DAN Europe and Pascal Barnaby.
They have a few different versions of the Voyager available. The Sport is a pre mixed SCR unit with constant flow orifice. This can be changed by the diver before the dive to suit dive depth and nitrox mix.
The Voyager Modular is a fully closed circuit rebreather. It is between a Kiss and a Pelagian in concept. The O2 is a continious flow design but is controlled by a needle valve. This has to be set before the dive and cannot be changed during the dive like the Pelagian ( i am working on it though) It is a very modular design in that the cylinders can be either way up. For trim purposes in a wetsuit i have the cylinders deinverted with manual Dil and O2 valves coming over my shoulder like the 'Boris. It works well and is infact a very well made unit. It also has a dump valve on the base of the scrubber like the Sentinel to vent water in the event of a flood.
The company are making a prototype at the moment with an unusuall scrubber desing that should be interesting.

Hope this helps.

Aaron.

Hello Aaron, does HBT still advertise scrubber duration of 260 min 'CE compliant' ? for 2.7kg sorb?

paul

correction: I was to fast: now it is 245min with 2.8kg sorb...

Devils Advocate · 12th May 2008, 10:09

Hi Jean,
the Dil is added by an ADV located on the top of the scrubber lid/head and also by a manual add valve.
I am in the process of wriring an article on it with pictures of it broken down and a full explination on how it works. It should be ready in a week or so.
HBT and Coltri Sub in Egypt are working together to offer them in the Egypt, hence i am playing with one at the moment for evaluation.
If you want to have a go on one there are cheap flights to Sharm nearly every day!!!!!!

Aaron.

Devils Advocate · 12th May 2008, 10:12

Hi Paul,
i am waiting for the specs from the company. I do know it is CE approved but don't have all the correct data at the moment, so i wont speculate!!!

Aaron.

paulraymaekers · 12th May 2008, 11:56

Quote: (Originally Posted by Devils Advocate)

Hi Paul,
i am waiting for the specs from the company. I do know it is CE approved but don't have all the correct data at the moment, so i wont speculate!!!

Aaron.

Hello Aaron, just for your info then, if you're a bit familiar with CE testing, scrubber performance etc, then you know it is not possible with dual front mounted counterlungs, in 4° celcius at 40m depth, 40l/min RVM, 1.6l/min CO2 injection, to have a 245 minute till 0.5 surface % breaktrough, with 2.8kg sorb ...

unless they would use lithium hydroxide (??) or something similar (don't have the right chem here)

the problem is if such results are published, what other info must be believed or not...

regards
paul

**jmurba** · 12th May 2008, 12:41

Quote: (Originally Posted by Devils Advocate)

Hi Jean,
the Dil is added by an ADV located on the top of the scrubber lid/head and also by a manual add valve.
I am in the process of wriring an article on it with pictures of it broken down and a full explination on how it works. It should be ready in a week or so.
HBT and Coltri Sub in Egypt are working together to offer them in the Egypt, hence i am playing with one at the moment for evaluation.
If you want to have a go on one there are cheap flights to Sharm nearly every day!!!!!!

Aaron.

Hi,
thanks for your effort, I can't wait for your new article about this rebreather.
regards
jean mi

**jmurba** · 12th May 2008, 12:47

Quote: (Originally Posted by paulraymaekers)

the problem is if such results are published, what other info must be believed or not...

regards
paul

what do you mean by "..."

Ben Field · 12th May 2008, 14:48

Quote: (Originally Posted by jmurba)

what do you mean by "..."

I'd guess-

12th May 2008, 08:35	#1 (permalink)
jmurba wet bear Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: May 2006 Location: cannes france Posts: 659	voyager v1 tek Hi all, does anybody exactly knows how the v1-tek rebreather (voyager) works ?: Diving Equipement the site says it is a ccr , is it a kiss , a premixer ? regards jean mi __________________ when will I be able to think about something else then spending hours underwater, when will I be normal ? http://web.mac.com/jmurba/Site_2/home.html http://web.mac.com/jmurba/Site_3/home.html
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12th May 2008, 09:45	#2 (permalink)
Devils Advocate anarchist & nonconformist Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Pelagian Other CCR Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Pelagian Other CCR Other SCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: egypt Posts: 57	Re: voyager v1 tek Hi Jean, the Voyager range of rebreathers have undergone quite a few changes over the past few months. Originally the company was called Aquatek, but they have changed the name of the company to HBT ( Human Breathing Technology) The website is Human Breathing Technology They have being doing a lot of work lately with DAN Europe and Pascal Barnaby. They have a few different versions of the Voyager available. The Sport is a pre mixed SCR unit with constant flow orifice. This can be changed by the diver before the dive to suit dive depth and nitrox mix. The Voyager Modular is a fully closed circuit rebreather. It is between a Kiss and a Pelagian in concept. The O2 is a continious flow design but is controlled by a needle valve. This has to be set before the dive and cannot be changed during the dive like the Pelagian ( i am working on it though) It is a very modular design in that the cylinders can be either way up. For trim purposes in a wetsuit i have the cylinders deinverted with manual Dil and O2 valves coming over my shoulder like the 'Boris. It works well and is infact a very well made unit. It also has a dump valve on the base of the scrubber like the Sentinel to vent water in the event of a flood. The company are making a prototype at the moment with an unusuall scrubber desing that should be interesting. Hope this helps. Aaron.
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12th May 2008, 09:56	#3 (permalink)
jmurba wet bear Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: May 2006 Location: cannes france Posts: 659	Re: voyager v1 tek Quote: (Originally Posted by Devils Advocate) Hi Jean, the Voyager range of rebreathers have undergone quite a few changes over the past few months. Originally the company was called Aquatek, but they have changed the name of the company to HBT ( Human Breathing Technology) The website is Human Breathing Technology They have being doing a lot of work lately with DAN Europe and Pascal Barnaby. They have a few different versions of the Voyager available. The Sport is a pre mixed SCR unit with constant flow orifice. This can be changed by the diver before the dive to suit dive depth and nitrox mix. The Voyager Modular is a fully closed circuit rebreather. It is between a Kiss and a Pelagian in concept. The O2 is a continious flow design but is controlled by a needle valve. This has to be set before the dive and cannot be changed during the dive like the Pelagian ( i am working on it though) It is a very modular design in that the cylinders can be either way up. For trim purposes in a wetsuit i have the cylinders deinverted with manual Dil and O2 valves coming over my shoulder like the 'Boris. It works well and is infact a very well made unit. It also has a dump valve on the base of the scrubber like the Sentinel to vent water in the event of a flood. The company are making a prototype at the moment with an unusuall scrubber desing that should be interesting. Hope this helps. Aaron. Hi aaron, interresting even I did not understand fully what you tried to explain to me so there is an o2 flow rate, and is there a diluant flow rate or is the dil added by an adv or a manual demand valve ? what do you mean by beetwen the kiss and the pelagian ? regards jean mi __________________ when will I be able to think about something else then spending hours underwater, when will I be normal ? http://web.mac.com/jmurba/Site_2/home.html http://web.mac.com/jmurba/Site_3/home.html
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12th May 2008, 09:56	#4 (permalink)
paulraymaekers rEvo's daddy Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Join Date: May 2005 Location: belgium Posts: 1,349	Re: voyager v1 tek Quote: (Originally Posted by Devils Advocate) Hi Jean, the Voyager range of rebreathers have undergone quite a few changes over the past few months. Originally the company was called Aquatek, but they have changed the name of the company to HBT ( Human Breathing Technology) The website is Human Breathing Technology They have being doing a lot of work lately with DAN Europe and Pascal Barnaby. They have a few different versions of the Voyager available. The Sport is a pre mixed SCR unit with constant flow orifice. This can be changed by the diver before the dive to suit dive depth and nitrox mix. The Voyager Modular is a fully closed circuit rebreather. It is between a Kiss and a Pelagian in concept. The O2 is a continious flow design but is controlled by a needle valve. This has to be set before the dive and cannot be changed during the dive like the Pelagian ( i am working on it though) It is a very modular design in that the cylinders can be either way up. For trim purposes in a wetsuit i have the cylinders deinverted with manual Dil and O2 valves coming over my shoulder like the 'Boris. It works well and is infact a very well made unit. It also has a dump valve on the base of the scrubber like the Sentinel to vent water in the event of a flood. The company are making a prototype at the moment with an unusuall scrubber desing that should be interesting. Hope this helps. Aaron. Hello Aaron, does HBT still advertise scrubber duration of 260 min 'CE compliant' ? for 2.7kg sorb? paul correction: I was to fast: now it is 245min with 2.8kg sorb... __________________ www.rEvo-rebreathers.com .... the earth is flat, Elvis is alive, and radial scrubbers give longer dwell time than axials...
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12th May 2008, 10:09	#5 (permalink)
Devils Advocate anarchist & nonconformist Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Pelagian Other CCR Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Pelagian Other CCR Other SCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: egypt Posts: 57	Re: voyager v1 tek Hi Jean, the Dil is added by an ADV located on the top of the scrubber lid/head and also by a manual add valve. I am in the process of wriring an article on it with pictures of it broken down and a full explination on how it works. It should be ready in a week or so. HBT and Coltri Sub in Egypt are working together to offer them in the Egypt, hence i am playing with one at the moment for evaluation. If you want to have a go on one there are cheap flights to Sharm nearly every day!!!!!! Aaron.
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12th May 2008, 10:12	#6 (permalink)
Devils Advocate anarchist & nonconformist Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Pelagian Other CCR Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Pelagian Other CCR Other SCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: egypt Posts: 57	Re: voyager v1 tek Hi Paul, i am waiting for the specs from the company. I do know it is CE approved but don't have all the correct data at the moment, so i wont speculate!!! Aaron.
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12th May 2008, 11:56	#7 (permalink)
paulraymaekers rEvo's daddy Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Join Date: May 2005 Location: belgium Posts: 1,349	Re: voyager v1 tek Quote: (Originally Posted by Devils Advocate) Hi Paul, i am waiting for the specs from the company. I do know it is CE approved but don't have all the correct data at the moment, so i wont speculate!!! Aaron. Hello Aaron, just for your info then, if you're a bit familiar with CE testing, scrubber performance etc, then you know it is not possible with dual front mounted counterlungs, in 4° celcius at 40m depth, 40l/min RVM, 1.6l/min CO2 injection, to have a 245 minute till 0.5 surface % breaktrough, with 2.8kg sorb ... unless they would use lithium hydroxide (??) or something similar (don't have the right chem here) the problem is if such results are published, what other info must be believed or not... regards paul __________________ www.rEvo-rebreathers.com .... the earth is flat, Elvis is alive, and radial scrubbers give longer dwell time than axials... Last edited by paulraymaekers : 12th May 2008 at 11:58.
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12th May 2008, 12:41	#8 (permalink)
jmurba wet bear Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: May 2006 Location: cannes france Posts: 659	Re: voyager v1 tek Quote: (Originally Posted by Devils Advocate) Hi Jean, the Dil is added by an ADV located on the top of the scrubber lid/head and also by a manual add valve. I am in the process of wriring an article on it with pictures of it broken down and a full explination on how it works. It should be ready in a week or so. HBT and Coltri Sub in Egypt are working together to offer them in the Egypt, hence i am playing with one at the moment for evaluation. If you want to have a go on one there are cheap flights to Sharm nearly every day!!!!!! Aaron. Hi, thanks for your effort, I can't wait for your new article about this rebreather. regards jean mi __________________ when will I be able to think about something else then spending hours underwater, when will I be normal ? http://web.mac.com/jmurba/Site_2/home.html http://web.mac.com/jmurba/Site_3/home.html
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jmurba wet bear Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: May 2006 Location: cannes france Posts: 659	Re: voyager v1 tek Quote: (Originally Posted by paulraymaekers) the problem is if such results are published, what other info must be believed or not... regards paul what do you mean by "..." __________________ when will I be able to think about something else then spending hours underwater, when will I be normal ? http://web.mac.com/jmurba/Site_2/home.html http://web.mac.com/jmurba/Site_3/home.html
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