BTS-saw new OMS/Grey Wolf

jiseson · 25th March 2007, 13:52

This unit was very impressive in it's construction-seemed most overbuilt of any rig i have yet to view.4 cells. radial scrubber 7 lbs ab. handset display on lcd-no battery required-ala prism.dual solenoids-O2 and dil. batteries are fully redundant and cross power.-nicely done-waiting to see it in production

Nemo1957 · 25th March 2007, 14:03

It will never happen

jiseson · 25th March 2007, 14:04

Quote: (Originally Posted by Nemo1957)

It will never happen

may i ask why?

OceanOpportunity · 25th March 2007, 14:10

anyone have some pictures..

also curious...why have a display requiring no batteries, yet have solonoid operation for both o2 and diluent?...seems to be a step in the right direction, and the wrong direction at the same time..keep it all simple/mechanical, or go ultra-complex..I dont see the value in mix and match with these particular features...basically taking away one thing to go wrong, but adding another. At least keep diluent injection manual/mechanical via ADV..hasnt failed anyone as of yet

**Dave Sutton** · 25th March 2007, 16:38

Quote: (Originally Posted by Nemo1957)

It will never happen

Errr..... I respectfully disagree. It took the prize as "Neatest Rebreather in Show".

I was impressed, spent two hours with Dave going over the details, and will likely be assisting the design effort.

Layout is impressive, and the chassis, which is done, is awesome. It has some excellent design features, sensor dluent flooding, fluid filled electronics chamber, 4 cells in the main cell bay, etc. Just neat industrial design.

Dave

**Dave Sutton** · 25th March 2007, 16:50

Quote: (Originally Posted by OceanOpportunity)

anyone have some pictures..

also curious...why have a display requiring no batteries, yet have solonoid operation for both o2 and diluent?...seems to be a step in the right direction, and the wrong direction at the same time..keep it all simple/mechanical, or go ultra-complex..I dont see the value in mix and match with these particular features...basically taking away one thing to go wrong, but adding another. At least keep diluent injection manual/mechanical via ADV..hasnt failed anyone as of yet

Manual add valves in the lungs are a 5 minute deal.

The elecronics are not even close to being finished, I'd not even take what we saw as any sort of data point. The chassis rocks!

Dave

onetime · 25th March 2007, 19:25

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton)

Manual add valves in the lungs are a 5 minute deal.

The elecronics are not even close to being finished, I'd not even take what we saw as any sort of data point. The chassis rocks!

Dave

Agree about the chassis. Looked like an interesting unit although the shape is a tad well ummm, phallic.

Damn, wish I had stopped in @ Golem to see the dual BOV. Saw some BOV's as I passed by but they didn't grab my attention and draw me in. Did they have a price set? What did the layout look like in terms of bailout reg placement versus the two loop connections?

Here are a couple of pics of the OMS:

dantheman · 25th March 2007, 20:20

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton)

"Neatest Rebreather in Show". . . .I was impressed, . . . and will likely be assisting the design effort.

You are aware it has (gasp!) OTS CLs??

--dan

**Dave Sutton** · 25th March 2007, 21:07

Quote: (Originally Posted by dantheman)

You are aware it has (gasp!) OTS CLs??

--dan

Yes, sadly.... but as we all know, Meg's and YBOD's can have new lungs made. I didn't even really look at the lungs, we spent the entire time poking into the head, which looks like a work of art inside. Just gorgeous.

Dave

***schford*** · 25th March 2007, 21:23

Is this the same unit that was at DEMA by OMS...Barrie did we get some video footage of it?

It was pretty ummm similiar to the Prism!

25th March 2007, 13:52	#1 (permalink)
jiseson DSIX/O2PTIMA Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: long island,ny Posts: 454	BTS-saw new OMS/Grey Wolf This unit was very impressive in it's construction-seemed most overbuilt of any rig i have yet to view.4 cells. radial scrubber 7 lbs ab. handset display on lcd-no battery required-ala prism.dual solenoids-O2 and dil. batteries are fully redundant and cross power.-nicely done-waiting to see it in production __________________ *Jonathan D Iseson*
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25th March 2007, 14:03	#2 (permalink)
Nemo1957 New Member Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New York Posts: 76	Re: BTS-saw new OMS/Grey Wolf It will never happen
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25th March 2007, 14:04	#3 (permalink)
jiseson DSIX/O2PTIMA Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: long island,ny Posts: 454	Re: BTS-saw new OMS/Grey Wolf Quote: (Originally Posted by Nemo1957) It will never happen may i ask why? __________________ *Jonathan D Iseson*
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25th March 2007, 14:10	#4 (permalink)
OceanOpportunity for a world of water Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Providence, RI USA Posts: 479	Re: BTS-saw new OMS/Grey Wolf anyone have some pictures.. also curious...why have a display requiring no batteries, yet have solonoid operation for both o2 and diluent?...seems to be a step in the right direction, and the wrong direction at the same time..keep it all simple/mechanical, or go ultra-complex..I dont see the value in mix and match with these particular features...basically taking away one thing to go wrong, but adding another. At least keep diluent injection manual/mechanical via ADV..hasnt failed anyone as of yet __________________ Michael Lombardi Oceans of Opportunity www.oceanopportunity.com Elected Director, Society for Human Performance in Extreme Environments MN'07, The Explorers Club Project Manager, Diving a Dream Last edited by OceanOpportunity : 25th March 2007 at 14:11. Reason: typos
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25th March 2007, 16:38	#5 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Living on Animal Farm Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey Posts: 2,511	Re: BTS-saw new OMS/Grey Wolf Quote: (Originally Posted by Nemo1957) It will never happen Errr..... I respectfully disagree. It took the prize as "Neatest Rebreather in Show". I was impressed, spent two hours with Dave going over the details, and will likely be assisting the design effort. Layout is impressive, and the chassis, which is done, is awesome. It has some excellent design features, sensor dluent flooding, fluid filled electronics chamber, 4 cells in the main cell bay, etc. Just neat industrial design. Dave __________________ . "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others" Professional Small Boy: Never Successfully Cubicled.
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25th March 2007, 16:50	#6 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Living on Animal Farm Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey Posts: 2,511	Re: BTS-saw new OMS/Grey Wolf Quote: (Originally Posted by OceanOpportunity) anyone have some pictures.. also curious...why have a display requiring no batteries, yet have solonoid operation for both o2 and diluent?...seems to be a step in the right direction, and the wrong direction at the same time..keep it all simple/mechanical, or go ultra-complex..I dont see the value in mix and match with these particular features...basically taking away one thing to go wrong, but adding another. At least keep diluent injection manual/mechanical via ADV..hasnt failed anyone as of yet Manual add valves in the lungs are a 5 minute deal. The elecronics are not even close to being finished, I'd not even take what we saw as any sort of data point. The chassis rocks! Dave __________________ . "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others" Professional Small Boy: Never Successfully Cubicled.
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25th March 2007, 19:25	#7 (permalink)
onetime Classic KISSer #138 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: US, NJ Posts: 655	Re: BTS-saw new OMS/Grey Wolf Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton) Manual add valves in the lungs are a 5 minute deal. The elecronics are not even close to being finished, I'd not even take what we saw as any sort of data point. The chassis rocks! Dave Agree about the chassis. Looked like an interesting unit although the shape is a tad well ummm, phallic. Damn, wish I had stopped in @ Golem to see the dual BOV. Saw some BOV's as I passed by but they didn't grab my attention and draw me in. Did they have a price set? What did the layout look like in terms of bailout reg placement versus the two loop connections? Here are a couple of pics of the OMS: Last edited by onetime : 25th March 2007 at 23:29.
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25th March 2007, 20:20	#8 (permalink)
dantheman Emoticonoclast Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss rEvo Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Join Date: May 2005 Location: NorthEast USA Posts: 393	Re: BTS-saw new OMS/Grey Wolf Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton) "Neatest Rebreather in Show". . . .I was impressed, . . . and will likely be assisting the design effort. You are aware it has (gasp!) OTS CLs?? --dan
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25th March 2007, 21:07	#9 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Living on Animal Farm Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey Posts: 2,511	Re: BTS-saw new OMS/Grey Wolf Quote: (Originally Posted by dantheman) You are aware it has (gasp!) OTS CLs?? --dan Yes, sadly.... but as we all know, Meg's and YBOD's can have new lungs made. I didn't even really look at the lungs, we spent the entire time poking into the head, which looks like a work of art inside. Just gorgeous. Dave __________________ . "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others" Professional Small Boy: Never Successfully Cubicled.
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25th March 2007, 21:23	#10 (permalink)
*schford* Despotic Overlord Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,662	Re: BTS-saw new OMS/Grey Wolf Is this the same unit that was at DEMA by OMS...Barrie did we get some video footage of it? It was pretty ummm similiar to the Prism! __________________ Bailout and Kit Management account for Murphy's Law The only bad question is one you did not ask and later wish you had. Use of Rebreather World is subject to the Rebreather World Terms & Conditions of Use
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