BTS-saw new OMS/Grey Wolf

Barrie Law · 25th March 2007, 21:52

http://www.rebreatherworld.com/photo...o/3448/cat/534

Above is the link to the Rebreather World interview with David Weber at DEMA.

Regards

silentscuba · 25th March 2007, 21:53

Quote: (Originally Posted by schford)

Is this the same unit that was at DEMA by OMS...Barrie did we get some video footage of it?

It was pretty ummm similiar to the Prism!

I know Barrie and I both took footage of this unit at DEMA. By the way, how is the DEMA DVD coming along?????

**Dave Sutton** · 25th March 2007, 21:55

Quote: (Originally Posted by schford)

It was pretty ummm similiar to the Prism!

Uhh..... not. Well, I guess they both share OTS counterlungs and a can on your back, but then.... so does the Meg, etc.

And, I was *impressed* with the high build quality of this one...

Dave

Barrie Law · 25th March 2007, 21:56

Quote: (Originally Posted by silentscuba)

I know Barrie and I both took footage of this unit at DEMA. By the way, how is the DEMA DVD coming along?????

Hi Curt,

The DEMA footage I have is in the Gallery besides a few that Stuart has missed

I think Genesis is mainly looking after the DVD so I have no info about that.

Regards

JonnyB · 25th March 2007, 22:52

I am not sure i agree, my first thought when i saw the pic of it from the fron was it look alot like the prism. The connections to the counterlung are identical to the prism's

/Jonny

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton)

Uhh..... not. Well, I guess they both share OTS counterlungs and a can on your back, but then.... so does the Meg, etc.

And, I was *impressed* with the high build quality of this one...

Dave

**Dave Sutton** · 26th March 2007, 00:57

I spent two hours yesterday tearing it down to the last screw and O-Ring and trust me: It's *nothing* like a Prism.

Dave

chunter · 26th March 2007, 01:22

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton)

I spent two hours yesterday tearing it down to the last screw and O-Ring and trust me: It's *nothing* like a Prism.

Dave

I don't know if we can trust you Dave as you are on OMS's payroll

Who are going to be making the electronics for them? The OMS guy in the video seems to know a lot about the planned electronics considering they aren't built yet. I also wasn't impressed with his explaination as to why they put the O2 on the left. "I dive a Prism...It's what I'm comfortable with." ????

dive2dive2000 · 26th March 2007, 01:46

Quote: (Originally Posted by JonnyB)

I am not sure i agree, my first thought when i saw the pic of it from the fron was it look alot like the prism. The connections to the counterlung are identical to the prism's

/Jonny

Hi Jonny,

Well err... yes and no. The Prism evolved from mk15,s and some earlier (other) military versions. Grey Wolf's Unit has incorporated some of those designs and changed them towards what he believes to be improvements. Some of them I like and some of them I don't. The ones I did not, ironically neither did he and is currently redesigning them. His body material is state of art, (looks like not the only company to use... errrr, knew Meg canister

). Grey Wolf has a long and hard road a head of him. If he can survive the financial investment (and time frame of return on that investment) that's needed to complete and sell his product I believe you will see one hell of a CCR.

BTW The Prism's ADV is a schrader valve incorporated in its own housing on the inhalation CL GW's is incorporated in the elbow this is a major difference.

**Steve** · 26th March 2007, 01:53

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton)

I spent two hours yesterday tearing it down to the last screw and O-Ring and trust me: It's *nothing* like a Prism.

Dave

Come off it Dave you aren't fooling anyone. It is so heavily influenced by the PRISM it isn't funny. Pete Ready even had a big hand in it's development before he and OMS parted company.

Even the tanks are on the wrong side

**rigdiver** · 26th March 2007, 01:57

At DEMA there were several other manufacturers sniffing around this unit at the OMS booth.

25th March 2007, 21:52	#11 (permalink)
Barrie Law RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ireland Posts: 726	Re: BTS-saw new OMS/Grey Wolf http://www.rebreatherworld.com/photo...o/3448/cat/534 Above is the link to the Rebreather World interview with David Weber at DEMA. Regards __________________ Barrie Law Rebreather World Store Supplying the Rebreather World Tel:US +19548403892 Fax:US+19543333792 Tel:EU+442071930496 Fax:EU+442077606344 Mobile+353876880628 Skype:barrielaw Email: barrie@rebreatherworldstore.com
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25th March 2007, 21:55	#13 (permalink)
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25th March 2007, 21:56	#14 (permalink)
Barrie Law RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ireland Posts: 726	Re: BTS-saw new OMS/Grey Wolf Quote: (Originally Posted by silentscuba) I know Barrie and I both took footage of this unit at DEMA. By the way, how is the DEMA DVD coming along????? Hi Curt, The DEMA footage I have is in the Gallery besides a few that Stuart has missed I think Genesis is mainly looking after the DVD so I have no info about that. Regards __________________ Barrie Law Rebreather World Store Supplying the Rebreather World Tel:US +19548403892 Fax:US+19543333792 Tel:EU+442071930496 Fax:EU+442077606344 Mobile+353876880628 Skype:barrielaw Email: barrie@rebreatherworldstore.com
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25th March 2007, 22:52	#15 (permalink)
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26th March 2007, 00:57	#16 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Living on Animal Farm Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey Posts: 2,445	Re: BTS-saw new OMS/Grey Wolf I spent two hours yesterday tearing it down to the last screw and O-Ring and trust me: It's nothing like a Prism. Dave __________________ . "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others" Professional Small Boy: Never Successfully Cubicled.
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26th March 2007, 01:22	#17 (permalink)
chunter I like diving Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Classic Kiss Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Honolulu Posts: 449	Re: BTS-saw new OMS/Grey Wolf Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton) I spent two hours yesterday tearing it down to the last screw and O-Ring and trust me: It's nothing like a Prism. Dave I don't know if we can trust you Dave as you are on OMS's payroll Who are going to be making the electronics for them? The OMS guy in the video seems to know a lot about the planned electronics considering they aren't built yet. I also wasn't impressed with his explaination as to why they put the O2 on the left. "I dive a Prism...It's what I'm comfortable with." ???? __________________ "Foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." - Emerson "Hobgoblin is a cool word." - Charlie Last edited by chunter : 26th March 2007 at 01:25.
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26th March 2007, 01:46	#18 (permalink)
dive2dive2000 PRISM DIVER & LUVIN IT! Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 775	Re: BTS-saw new OMS/Grey Wolf Quote: (Originally Posted by JonnyB) I am not sure i agree, my first thought when i saw the pic of it from the fron was it look alot like the prism. The connections to the counterlung are identical to the prism's /Jonny Hi Jonny, Well err... yes and no. The Prism evolved from mk15,s and some earlier (other) military versions. Grey Wolf's Unit has incorporated some of those designs and changed them towards what he believes to be improvements. Some of them I like and some of them I don't. The ones I did not, ironically neither did he and is currently redesigning them. His body material is state of art, (looks like not the only company to use... errrr, knew Meg canister). Grey Wolf has a long and hard road a head of him. If he can survive the financial investment (and time frame of return on that investment) that's needed to complete and sell his product I believe you will see one hell of a CCR. BTW The Prism's ADV is a schrader valve incorporated in its own housing on the inhalation CL GW's is incorporated in the elbow this is a major difference. __________________ Safe Diving, Martin "but what's the fun of getting what you need, instead of what you want?" Last edited by dive2dive2000 : 26th March 2007 at 01:49.
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26th March 2007, 01:53	#19 (permalink)
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