Colkan Eagle

wizbang · 3rd April 2007, 01:05

Quote: (Originally Posted by S. Marc)

Just an FYI for those guys discussing the restriction in the biopack center section.

The BMR 500 center section I have does not at first appear to have a restriction, there is no half moon at all, it is a full circle just over 1 1/4" ID, that is until one puts the scrubber into the center section, and then you get the half moon effect as when the scrubber is seated properly it blocks (rough eyeball measurement) one half of the exhale tube. The O-ring is above the exhale tube and the center section is machined such that the scrubber can go in to a predetermined depth.

There are some people (Phi, please don't get upset

) who have dove the BMR in the 300 to 400 fsw range and I have not heard of any reports of problems with WOB.

I have heard of a number of people doing sub 150 fsw dives on biopak center sections and have not heard of problems (not to say there weren't any).

Just my 2 cents.

Marc

Hi Marc, as Steve and Jason will atest to there is a restriction in the "body" of the "eagle" unit (regardless of it pedigree). Col and I discussed the gas density depth limits and that it was under trial with steve and a few others. If they thought there was an issue they would alter the path and make it ramp up etc and continue further testing.

It was propably my only concern.

MHD · 3rd April 2007, 04:13

Looks like they are moving ahead with testing. I just went to get some K-1D's from a local importer and found he had sold his entire stock to Colkan last week. Approximately 30 cells worth. Luckily a friend had 3 spare new one in his kit that i can swipe at short notice.

Matt

geelongharley · 3rd April 2007, 11:45

Quote: (Originally Posted by Scuttle)

This old fella had no dramas reaching back so I younger agile fella shouldn't either
Apart from picking on the likeness to the Bio, was there any problem/ short comings with that design that we could be enlightened on.

Hi Scuttle,
I'm a complete novice on rebreathers and a mid 40's returned to diving, would appreciate some advice on educating myself about rebreathers. Perhaps you could assist as I'm in Geelong, thanks for your time. Greg

***caveseeker7*** · 3rd April 2007, 12:50

Quote: (Originally Posted by MHD)

Looks like they are moving ahead with testing. I just went to get some K-1D's from a local importer and found he had sold his entire stock to Colkan last week. Approximately 30 cells worth.

Either that, Matt, or they keep flooding.

Just kidding, of course, am looking for feedback from the guinea pigs.

Scuttle · 3rd April 2007, 15:01

Quote: (Originally Posted by geelongharley)

Hi Scuttle,
I'm a complete novice on rebreathers and a mid 40's returned to diving, would appreciate some advice on educating myself about rebreathers. Perhaps you could assist as I'm in Geelong, thanks for your time. Greg

G'day Greg,
First off, let me welcome you to Rebreather World its a good place to pick up a lot of this info, new & old. Secondly congratulations on your decision to return to diving & thinking of the dark side.
Anytime you want to have a chinwag, feel free to contact me 52613732 or drop in & I will give you a look over my rigs. Weekends are busy most times & if you turned up at the boat ramp around 7am , 10 or 1pm there is a good chance to talk to others & their brands of breathers as well.
Pretty friendly bunch really & will talk your socks off given half a chance.

I eagerly await the news reports as well caveseeker.
If it turns out to be a dog of a breather, I bags we rename it (MCCR) Beagle & (ECCR)Buzzard

rdmmdr · 5th April 2007, 01:41

does anyone know if centersections are just modified bp240s or have they gotten rid of the restriction. and if they have does anyone have the price.

thanks
rick m

***caveseeker7*** · 5th April 2007, 04:50

The discussion about reed switches on PRISMs moved into that forum.

RonMicjan · 6th April 2007, 01:18

Quote: (Originally Posted by rdmmdr)

does anyone know if centersections are just modified bp240s or have they gotten rid of the restriction. and if they have does anyone have the price.

thanks
rick m

the restriction was still there at oztec, they alluded that they may look at removing it after dive testing. I have some notes about pricing, but not with me this second. I recall 6900ish AUD for the KISS version and 11,5kAUD for the electronic version. +/-300 on my memory

rdmmdr · 6th April 2007, 02:20

thanks Ron
i will try to get with them for part pricing. So let me get this right, we have a bp60 case with a bp 240 scrubber and thier electronics thrown in. for 11000 aud. if we get training on this unit can the bp240 homebuild guys gte legal.

rick m

S. Marc · 6th April 2007, 02:48

Quote: "if we get training on this unit can the bp240 homebuild guys gte legal."

Rick,

I like that idea

3rd April 2007, 01:05	#71 (permalink)
wizbang WEB MERMEN Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Vision Evolution Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Perth Australia Posts: 385	Re: Colkan Eagle Quote: (Originally Posted by S. Marc) Just an FYI for those guys discussing the restriction in the biopack center section. The BMR 500 center section I have does not at first appear to have a restriction, there is no half moon at all, it is a full circle just over 1 1/4" ID, that is until one puts the scrubber into the center section, and then you get the half moon effect as when the scrubber is seated properly it blocks (rough eyeball measurement) one half of the exhale tube. The O-ring is above the exhale tube and the center section is machined such that the scrubber can go in to a predetermined depth. There are some people (Phi, please don't get upset ) who have dove the BMR in the 300 to 400 fsw range and I have not heard of any reports of problems with WOB. I have heard of a number of people doing sub 150 fsw dives on biopak center sections and have not heard of problems (not to say there weren't any). Just my 2 cents. Marc Hi Marc, as Steve and Jason will atest to there is a restriction in the "body" of the "eagle" unit (regardless of it pedigree). Col and I discussed the gas density depth limits and that it was under trial with steve and a few others. If they thought there was an issue they would alter the path and make it ramp up etc and continue further testing. It was propably my only concern.
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3rd April 2007, 04:13	#72 (permalink)
MHD Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Brisbane, QLD, Australia Posts: 240	Re: Colkan Eagle Looks like they are moving ahead with testing. I just went to get some K-1D's from a local importer and found he had sold his entire stock to Colkan last week. Approximately 30 cells worth. Luckily a friend had 3 spare new one in his kit that i can swipe at short notice. Matt
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3rd April 2007, 11:45	#73 (permalink)
geelongharley New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Geelong Posts: 1	Re: Colkan Eagle Quote: (Originally Posted by Scuttle) This old fella had no dramas reaching back so I younger agile fella shouldn't either Apart from picking on the likeness to the Bio, was there any problem/ short comings with that design that we could be enlightened on. Hi Scuttle, I'm a complete novice on rebreathers and a mid 40's returned to diving, would appreciate some advice on educating myself about rebreathers. Perhaps you could assist as I'm in Geelong, thanks for your time. Greg
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3rd April 2007, 12:50	#74 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,435	Re: Colkan Eagle Quote: (Originally Posted by MHD) Looks like they are moving ahead with testing. I just went to get some K-1D's from a local importer and found he had sold his entire stock to Colkan last week. Approximately 30 cells worth. Either that, Matt, or they keep flooding. Just kidding, of course, am looking for feedback from the guinea pigs. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.'!"
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3rd April 2007, 15:01	#75 (permalink)
Scuttle 1 Grumpy ole skipper Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: May 2005 Location: Jan Juc, Vic, Australia Posts: 239	Re: Colkan Eagle Quote: (Originally Posted by geelongharley) Hi Scuttle, I'm a complete novice on rebreathers and a mid 40's returned to diving, would appreciate some advice on educating myself about rebreathers. Perhaps you could assist as I'm in Geelong, thanks for your time. Greg G'day Greg, First off, let me welcome you to Rebreather World its a good place to pick up a lot of this info, new & old. Secondly congratulations on your decision to return to diving & thinking of the dark side. Anytime you want to have a chinwag, feel free to contact me 52613732 or drop in & I will give you a look over my rigs. Weekends are busy most times & if you turned up at the boat ramp around 7am , 10 or 1pm there is a good chance to talk to others & their brands of breathers as well. Pretty friendly bunch really & will talk your socks off given half a chance. I eagerly await the news reports as well caveseeker. If it turns out to be a dog of a breather, I bags we rename it (MCCR) Beagle & (ECCR)Buzzard __________________ sold CK182 now its CK243
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5th April 2007, 01:41	#76 (permalink)
rdmmdr designer of death Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: kerman,california Posts: 372	Re: Colkan Eagle does anyone know if centersections are just modified bp240s or have they gotten rid of the restriction. and if they have does anyone have the price. thanks rick m
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5th April 2007, 04:50	#77 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,435	Moved some posts The discussion about reed switches on PRISMs moved into that forum. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.'!"
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6th April 2007, 01:18	#78 (permalink)
RonMicjan Cap Ron scourge of the NW Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cape Disapointment, The Graveyard of the Pacific Posts: 1,083	Re: Colkan Eagle Quote: (Originally Posted by rdmmdr) does anyone know if centersections are just modified bp240s or have they gotten rid of the restriction. and if they have does anyone have the price. thanks rick m the restriction was still there at oztec, they alluded that they may look at removing it after dive testing. I have some notes about pricing, but not with me this second. I recall 6900ish AUD for the KISS version and 11,5kAUD for the electronic version. +/-300 on my memory __________________ Ron "Life is pain princess, anyone who tells you different, is selling something", The Dread Pirate Wesley. www.tmishop.com Diving bits etc.
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6th April 2007, 02:20	#79 (permalink)
rdmmdr designer of death Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: kerman,california Posts: 372	Re: Colkan Eagle thanks Ron i will try to get with them for part pricing. So let me get this right, we have a bp60 case with a bp 240 scrubber and thier electronics thrown in. for 11000 aud. if we get training on this unit can the bp240 homebuild guys gte legal. rick m
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6th April 2007, 02:48	#80 (permalink)
S. Marc Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Home Build Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 174	Re: Colkan Eagle Quote: "if we get training on this unit can the bp240 homebuild guys gte legal." Rick, I like that idea
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