market response to new Cis Mk6

Mark Chase · 2nd March 2007, 09:50

Key points:

It must be less than 32KG packed and ready to put on an aircraft

Without tanks is fine but it must be able to use a range of localay available tanks 3's 5's 7's AL40s

It must have a totaly indipendent PP02 meter system with manual over-ride that will allow you to compleetly isolate (switch off) the primary electronic control.

Gas Isolation for the 02 to the solinoid which alowes manual injection of 02

It should have forth cell abuility designed in (like the Hammer Head)

Cell an battery access must be quick and easy.

Flood recovery is essential

A HUD which shows reading for each cell (6 LED's) usable on set point or warning mode (Like the URI HUD)

A BOV as standard or as a standard Option

A FFM option

A harnes designed for stage handling

A range of scrubber sizes all usable in the same scrubber housing or even better an adjustable scrubber, 2 hour 4 hour 8 hour duration.

Consideration for mounting torches and small secondary suit inflation or similar would be nice but not essential

Mv output option on the hand sets is essential

VPMB, VPMB-E deco or GF deco options with user setings

Balanced rig or consideration for trim weights for rig

Choice of counterlungs would be nice

Cost 5-6k would be nice but very hopfull, 8K absolute max

ATB

Mark Chase

**PhilSiswick** · 2nd March 2007, 10:16

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

Key points:

[Snip lots of things I agree with]

Cost 5-6k would be nice but very hopfull, 8K absolute max

Mark,

I assume you mean GBP, though I'd bite your hand off if it was that in USD ;-)

I'd say 8k GBP would be fair for a unit like this. I'm probably 7k GBP into the Vision and have the key items on your list that wouldn't require a fundamental redesign. I don't have independent PO2 monitoring (though I'm working on it), but would think that 8k GBP with that, the additional deco options and scrubber sizes would be about right for a market that will bear 5.5k GBP for a loaded Vision.

Cheers,

Ben Field · 2nd March 2007, 10:58

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

A HUD which shows reading for each cell (6 LED's) usable on set point or warning mode (Like the URI HUD)

Its about time someone upped the ante and produced an actual "HUD"

I want to see-

1.23
1.24
1.31

While we're dreaming just thought I'd toss that out....

2nd March 2007, 09:50	#21 (permalink)
Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,540	Re: market response to new Cis Mk6 Key points: It must be less than 32KG packed and ready to put on an aircraft Without tanks is fine but it must be able to use a range of localay available tanks 3's 5's 7's AL40s It must have a totaly indipendent PP02 meter system with manual over-ride that will allow you to compleetly isolate (switch off) the primary electronic control. Gas Isolation for the 02 to the solinoid which alowes manual injection of 02 It should have forth cell abuility designed in (like the Hammer Head) Cell an battery access must be quick and easy. Flood recovery is essential A HUD which shows reading for each cell (6 LED's) usable on set point or warning mode (Like the URI HUD) A BOV as standard or as a standard Option A FFM option A harnes designed for stage handling A range of scrubber sizes all usable in the same scrubber housing or even better an adjustable scrubber, 2 hour 4 hour 8 hour duration. Consideration for mounting torches and small secondary suit inflation or similar would be nice but not essential Mv output option on the hand sets is essential VPMB, VPMB-E deco or GF deco options with user setings Balanced rig or consideration for trim weights for rig Choice of counterlungs would be nice Cost 5-6k would be nice but very hopfull, 8K absolute max ATB Mark Chase __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System
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2nd March 2007, 10:16	#22 (permalink)
PhilSiswick WSKD 0001 Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 913	Re: market response to new Cis Mk6 Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase) Key points: [Snip lots of things I agree with] Cost 5-6k would be nice but very hopfull, 8K absolute max Mark, I assume you mean GBP, though I'd bite your hand off if it was that in USD ;-) I'd say 8k GBP would be fair for a unit like this. I'm probably 7k GBP into the Vision and have the key items on your list that wouldn't require a fundamental redesign. I don't have independent PO2 monitoring (though I'm working on it), but would think that 8k GBP with that, the additional deco options and scrubber sizes would be about right for a market that will bear 5.5k GBP for a loaded Vision. Cheers, __________________ Phil No comment on open circuit... it's an evolutionary dead end not really worth discussing here. Dave Sutton, 2007 I have always felt that the dive I am on is not nearly important as the dives I plan to be on the rest of my life. Tom Rose, 2007 www.hugsac.org.uk
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Ben Field CK+Shearwater Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 1,559	Re: market response to new Cis Mk6 Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase) A HUD which shows reading for each cell (6 LED's) usable on set point or warning mode (Like the URI HUD) Its about time someone upped the ante and produced an actual "HUD" I want to see- 1.23 1.24 1.31 While we're dreaming just thought I'd toss that out.... __________________ www.hugsac.org.uk Beware Fridge Suck
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