Age of "purchased new" cells?

Ben Field · 2nd April 2008, 07:37

Hi All,

(Apologies this debate has been had in various formats previously but my question is hopefully slightly different, if not can somene direct me to the correct thread as I really can't find it)

Firstly I'll accept that cells have a shelf life unopened and are then "supposed" to last 12-18months once opened (yeah right!)

But how old (since manufacture) is it acceptable for cells to be when they arrive in the post, sold as "new" from the supplier?

I have just bought 4x R22-2 BUD cells, date coded E7 (May 2007 I believe?)
Its currently April 08 so these cells are a year old.... is that reasonable, usual for "new" cells?

I'm afraid to admit I didn't make not of the age of previous cells

Acceptable or should I ask for "new" cells?

PS- I'm reluctant to open the bags and check output until I clear this up and yes, I did mail the supplier directly...

***Beanie*** · 2nd April 2008, 07:40

I'd ask for new ones personally a year old is taking the piss
3-4 months is probably OK

**RichClark** · 2nd April 2008, 07:42

All cells that I've bought (Oxycheq and DRE) have all been 1-2 months old. I'd be asking for replacements.

If you don't mind sharing, where did you get them from? I need a couple of spares and won't be in the states again in the near future so would rather not buy them from your source. Drop me a PM if you don't want to post.

Cheers

Rich

***Beanie*** · 2nd April 2008, 07:46

Quote: (Originally Posted by RichClark)

All cells that I've bought (Oxycheq and DRE) have all been 1-2 months old. I'd be asking for replacements.

If you don't mind sharing, where did you get them from? I need a couple of spares and won't be in the states again in the near future so would rather not buy them from your source. Drop me a PM if you don't want to post.

Cheers

Rich

Also is it the same source as I got my last ones from which were 3 months old but died after 8.

Saying that only my original cells were any good all the ones I got after that have been rubish.

**RichClark** · 2nd April 2008, 08:05

Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie)

Also is it the same source as I got my last ones from which were 3 months old but died after 8.

Saying that only my original cells were any good all the ones I got after that have been rubish.

Touch wood, all my cells have been good so far.

Rich

seppu · 2nd April 2008, 08:25

hai
maximum is 2-3 month for "new" cells.older is bs.

warmwaterdiver · 2nd April 2008, 09:23

I've just purchase a couple of cells from AP and they were Dec 07/Jan 08

**PhilSiswick** · 2nd April 2008, 09:40

I bought 4 in early Feb this year - all were November or December 07. I'd be reluctant to accept anything older than 3 months. I'm happy to tell you where I got mine from (though they are APD cells). FWIW, when I ordered cells from the same place last year, I got them in the same month as they were date coded.

I'd send yours back. Means Swanage is an issue - does Peter S have any cells he can lend you?

Cheers,

Ben Field · 2nd April 2008, 10:04

Apparently these are the most recent cells available!!!

***jradomski*** · 2nd April 2008, 10:22

Quote: (Originally Posted by jptaylor9)

As you should only use cells for 12 - 18 months from date stamped on cells (i.e. E7) you only have 6 months left on these cells. Given that most cells should only be a few months old when purchased, you should expect at least a year of useful life from new cells (faulty cells accepted)

Return them & get newer cells...

The total life expected on teledyne cells is 36 months from date of manufacture or about 1.5 years of use max..

I have received on mnay occasions cells that were 1 year old when purchased new.. Teledyne used to run large batches of cells and ship them as needed, now they run much smaler batches of cells...

The best batch of cells I ever had was from early 2004... I had some unused ones that were ust under 3 years old and tested linear to 2.0 even after that time... I just ended up binning the last of them in january.. the last 3 became limited to just over 1,6 for the worse and 1.7 for the best after about a year of use (and total time just under 4 years old!)

2nd April 2008, 07:37	#1 (permalink)
Ben Field CK+Shearwater Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 1,442	Age of "purchased new" cells? Hi All, (Apologies this debate has been had in various formats previously but my question is hopefully slightly different, if not can somene direct me to the correct thread as I really can't find it) Firstly I'll accept that cells have a shelf life unopened and are then "supposed" to last 12-18months once opened (yeah right!) But how old (since manufacture) is it acceptable for cells to be when they arrive in the post, sold as "new" from the supplier? I have just bought 4x R22-2 BUD cells, date coded E7 (May 2007 I believe?) Its currently April 08 so these cells are a year old.... is that reasonable, usual for "new" cells? I'm afraid to admit I didn't make not of the age of previous cells Acceptable or should I ask for "new" cells? PS- I'm reluctant to open the bags and check output until I clear this up and yes, I did mail the supplier directly... __________________ www.hugsac.org.uk Beware Fridge Suck
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2nd April 2008, 07:40	#2 (permalink)
*Beanie* Cheif tea maker Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,133	Re: Age of "purchased new" cells? I'd ask for new ones personally a year old is taking the piss 3-4 months is probably OK __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk www.divelife.co.uk
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2nd April 2008, 07:42	#3 (permalink)
RichClark Classic KISS No. 226 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hove, UK Posts: 757	Re: Age of "purchased new" cells? All cells that I've bought (Oxycheq and DRE) have all been 1-2 months old. I'd be asking for replacements. If you don't mind sharing, where did you get them from? I need a couple of spares and won't be in the states again in the near future so would rather not buy them from your source. Drop me a PM if you don't want to post. Cheers Rich __________________ The more I learn about women, the more I want to go diving... just don't tell my wife I said that To taste something a little different, try http://www.thechillikitchen.co.uk
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2nd April 2008, 07:46	#4 (permalink)
*Beanie* Cheif tea maker Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,133	Re: Age of "purchased new" cells? Quote: (Originally Posted by RichClark) All cells that I've bought (Oxycheq and DRE) have all been 1-2 months old. I'd be asking for replacements. If you don't mind sharing, where did you get them from? I need a couple of spares and won't be in the states again in the near future so would rather not buy them from your source. Drop me a PM if you don't want to post. Cheers Rich Also is it the same source as I got my last ones from which were 3 months old but died after 8. Saying that only my original cells were any good all the ones I got after that have been rubish. __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk www.divelife.co.uk
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2nd April 2008, 08:05	#5 (permalink)
RichClark Classic KISS No. 226 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hove, UK Posts: 757	Re: Age of "purchased new" cells? Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie) Also is it the same source as I got my last ones from which were 3 months old but died after 8. Saying that only my original cells were any good all the ones I got after that have been rubish. Touch wood, all my cells have been good so far. Rich __________________ The more I learn about women, the more I want to go diving... just don't tell my wife I said that To taste something a little different, try http://www.thechillikitchen.co.uk
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seppu i ko nix dafüa Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: bayern Posts: 182	Re: Age of "purchased new" cells? hai maximum is 2-3 month for "new" cells.older is bs.
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warmwaterdiver New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 10	Re: Age of "purchased new" cells? I've just purchase a couple of cells from AP and they were Dec 07/Jan 08
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PhilSiswick WSKD 0001 Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 880	Re: Age of "purchased new" cells? I bought 4 in early Feb this year - all were November or December 07. I'd be reluctant to accept anything older than 3 months. I'm happy to tell you where I got mine from (though they are APD cells). FWIW, when I ordered cells from the same place last year, I got them in the same month as they were date coded. I'd send yours back. Means Swanage is an issue - does Peter S have any cells he can lend you? Cheers, __________________ Phil No comment on open circuit... it's an evolutionary dead end not really worth discussing here. Dave Sutton, 2007 I have always felt that the dive I am on is not nearly important as the dives I plan to be on the rest of my life. Tom Rose, 2007 www.hugsac.org.uk
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Ben Field CK+Shearwater Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 1,442	Re: Age of "purchased new" cells? Apparently these are the most recent cells available!!! __________________ www.hugsac.org.uk Beware Fridge Suck
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*jradomski* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "Da" Bronx Posts: 2,795	Re: Age of "purchased new" cells? Quote: (Originally Posted by jptaylor9) As you should only use cells for 12 - 18 months from date stamped on cells (i.e. E7) you only have 6 months left on these cells. Given that most cells should only be a few months old when purchased, you should expect at least a year of useful life from new cells (faulty cells accepted) Return them & get newer cells... The total life expected on teledyne cells is 36 months from date of manufacture or about 1.5 years of use max.. I have received on mnay occasions cells that were 1 year old when purchased new.. Teledyne used to run large batches of cells and ship them as needed, now they run much smaler batches of cells... The best batch of cells I ever had was from early 2004... I had some unused ones that were ust under 3 years old and tested linear to 2.0 even after that time... I just ended up binning the last of them in january.. the last 3 became limited to just over 1,6 for the worse and 1.7 for the best after about a year of use (and total time just under 4 years old!) __________________ Joe Radomski CCR Trimix Instructor Trainer ANDI Instructor Trainer Director #10 All posts are personal opinions and DO NOT reflect any affiliated agency unless specifically stated.
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