Analytical Industries Sensors outperform Teledyne in six-year study

teksimple · 29th March 2007, 18:11

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teksimple · 29th March 2007, 18:40

Thanks for moving the post to the correct location, Stuart.

Yes, it is really hard to find a completely objective study of anything because all humans (including engineers and scientists) have biases. But I thought the tests performed were applicable--especially the drop test--since I take my rebreather on the back of a bouncing RIB on 250km open-ocean trips. A connector on one of my sensors has come unplugged at least once during such a trip, which is why I went to using rubber sleeves on my connectors. To be sure, in punishing studies like Deep Life's the real winner will be the closed circuit diver. AII has improved its sensors and Teledyne is in the process of doing so.

Life support equipment manufacturers should not settle for "good enough."

mountain diver · 29th March 2007, 18:52

this is an issue that I had when I did my training with leon, way back when.how accurate is your po2 reading's on your monitor.as it turn's out
your information is only as reliable as your sensor.guess what? that new sensor you just put in is already +/- 5% and that being a teledyne.

that beg's the question. at what po2 setting do you fly your unit?
anyone?

onetime · 29th March 2007, 19:19

Just this morning I bought 3 from Dive Rite Express (ok, they're R22 and not AI). I looked at your site prior to purchase but figured shipping from Hawaii would take a bit too long. I have used AI sensors up till the last sensor change about a year ago when I decided to compare my experiences with R22's. I haven't seen a difference as yet but obviously that's far from a scientific study.

How long would it take to ship from HI to NJ?

PacketSniffer · 29th March 2007, 19:25

Quote: (Originally Posted by onetime)

How long would it take to ship from HI to NJ?

Their site shows they ship USPS Priority Mail; so figure 3 ~ 5 days.

onetime · 29th March 2007, 19:34

Quote: (Originally Posted by PacketSniffer)

Their site shows they ship USPS Priority Mail; so figure 3 ~ 5 days.

Thanks, didn't see that. Maybe next time.

diverrob · 29th March 2007, 22:09

Can you get sensors for the Evolution?? If so how much $$

Rob

Joe · 29th March 2007, 22:27

Quote: (Originally Posted by mountain diver)

that beg's the question. at what po2 setting do you fly your unit?
anyone?

1.0 or, on a long very deep dive, lower.

Reasons are first that I want to be mid range to account for any sensor deviations and second because I see no benefit in high ppO2's WRT deco and I do not enjoy toasting my lungs.

n2diving · 29th March 2007, 22:37

[quote=onetime]Just this morning I bought 3 from Dive Rite Express (ok, they're R22 and not AI). [quote]

Hmmm if you bought them from me, they ARE the AI sensor.

onetime · 30th March 2007, 00:04

[quote=n2diving;105969][quote=onetime]Just this morning I bought 3 from Dive Rite Express (ok, they're R22 and not AI).

Quote:

Hmmm if you bought them from me, they ARE the AI sensor.

I see now, your labeling is a little confusing, perhaps intentionally so

. The top of the page shows R-22DR in big font while smaller font provides the fact that they are the AI's. As I said I've used both and don't have a preference. No worries either way but they were from you and they are the AI sensors. My bad.

The Dive Rite Express R-22DR with the standard 3-pin Molex connector is equivalent to the Teledyne R-22D is actually our part number for the Analytical Industries PSR-11-39-MD.

29th March 2007, 18:11	#1 (permalink)
teksimple Enlightened Alpinist Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Back in Hawaii Posts: 502	Analytical Industries Sensors outperform Teledyne in six-year study The following is a blatant commercial post from a new Rebreather World Sponsor. AII sensors outperform Teledyne? Yes, it is true. Read how the team of engineers at Deep Life UK did what is quite possibly the most comprehensive analysis of rebreather sensors to date. CCRsense.com stocks fresh Analytical Industries (AII) sensors for most rebreathers. To kick off the CCRsense.com grand opening, CCRsense is offering a 15% coupon to all Rebreatherworld members, for one week only. Currently CCRsense offers a 10% discount when you buy 3 sensors at a time. Add this to the RBWmember 15% discount, you save 25% off of retail when you buy sensors in quantity of 3. If you order in the next 8 hours, your sensors will be in the post tomorrow. This includes international orders! Just bought sensors from another supplier? You can still save! Register on CCRsense.com and you will be sent a personal coupon for 10% off of any order that you place before 1 April, 2008. __________________ ---- _____________ "I don't know the percentage of the Internet that's valid, do you? Jesus, it's scary." - Hunter S. Thompson Last edited by teksimple : 30th March 2007 at 17:55.
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29th March 2007, 18:40	#2 (permalink)
teksimple Enlightened Alpinist Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Back in Hawaii Posts: 502	Re: Analytical Industries Sensors outperform Teledyne in six-year study Thanks for moving the post to the correct location, Stuart. Yes, it is really hard to find a completely objective study of anything because all humans (including engineers and scientists) have biases. But I thought the tests performed were applicable--especially the drop test--since I take my rebreather on the back of a bouncing RIB on 250km open-ocean trips. A connector on one of my sensors has come unplugged at least once during such a trip, which is why I went to using rubber sleeves on my connectors. To be sure, in punishing studies like Deep Life's the real winner will be the closed circuit diver. AII has improved its sensors and Teledyne is in the process of doing so. Life support equipment manufacturers should not settle for "good enough." __________________ ---- _____________ "I don't know the percentage of the Internet that's valid, do you? Jesus, it's scary." - Hunter S. Thompson
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29th March 2007, 18:52	#3 (permalink)
mountain diver Silent Lucidity Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: edmonton, ab. Posts: 212	Re: Analytical Industries Sensors outperform Teledyne in six-year study this is an issue that I had when I did my training with leon, way back when.how accurate is your po2 reading's on your monitor.as it turn's out your information is only as reliable as your sensor.guess what? that new sensor you just put in is already +/- 5% and that being a teledyne. that beg's the question. at what po2 setting do you fly your unit? anyone?
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29th March 2007, 19:19	#4 (permalink)
onetime Classic KISSer #138 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: US, NJ Posts: 696	Re: Analytical Industries Sensors outperform Teledyne in six-year study Just this morning I bought 3 from Dive Rite Express (ok, they're R22 and not AI). I looked at your site prior to purchase but figured shipping from Hawaii would take a bit too long. I have used AI sensors up till the last sensor change about a year ago when I decided to compare my experiences with R22's. I haven't seen a difference as yet but obviously that's far from a scientific study. How long would it take to ship from HI to NJ?
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29th March 2007, 19:25	#5 (permalink)
PacketSniffer ~~~~~ #417 ~~~~~ Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Houston Posts: 437	Re: Analytical Industries Sensors outperform Teledyne in six-year study Quote: (Originally Posted by onetime) How long would it take to ship from HI to NJ? Their site shows they ship USPS Priority Mail; so figure 3 ~ 5 days. __________________ Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checked by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory or defeat.
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29th March 2007, 19:34	#6 (permalink)
onetime Classic KISSer #138 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: US, NJ Posts: 696	Re: Analytical Industries Sensors outperform Teledyne in six-year study Quote: (Originally Posted by PacketSniffer) Their site shows they ship USPS Priority Mail; so figure 3 ~ 5 days. Thanks, didn't see that. Maybe next time.
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29th March 2007, 22:09	#7 (permalink)
diverrob The Evolution of Diving Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other SCR Join Date: May 2005 Location: Victoria BC Canada Posts: 336	Re: Analytical Industries Sensors outperform Teledyne in six-year study Can you get sensors for the Evolution?? If so how much $$ Rob
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29th March 2007, 22:27	#8 (permalink)
Joe Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 267	Re: Analytical Industries Sensors outperform Teledyne in six-year study Quote: (Originally Posted by mountain diver) that beg's the question. at what po2 setting do you fly your unit? anyone? 1.0 or, on a long very deep dive, lower. Reasons are first that I want to be mid range to account for any sensor deviations and second because I see no benefit in high ppO2's WRT deco and I do not enjoy toasting my lungs.
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29th March 2007, 22:37	#9 (permalink)
n2diving Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 271	Re: Analytical Industries Sensors outperform Teledyne in six-year study [quote=onetime]Just this morning I bought 3 from Dive Rite Express (ok, they're R22 and not AI). [quote] Hmmm if you bought them from me, they ARE the AI sensor.
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30th March 2007, 00:04	#10 (permalink)
onetime Classic KISSer #138 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: US, NJ Posts: 696	Re: Analytical Industries Sensors outperform Teledyne in six-year study [quote=n2diving;105969][quote=onetime]Just this morning I bought 3 from Dive Rite Express (ok, they're R22 and not AI). Quote: Hmmm if you bought them from me, they ARE the AI sensor. I see now, your labeling is a little confusing, perhaps intentionally so . The top of the page shows R-22DR in big font while smaller font provides the fact that they are the AI's. As I said I've used both and don't have a preference. No worries either way but they were from you and they are the AI sensors. My bad. The Dive Rite Express R-22DR with the standard 3-pin Molex connector is equivalent to the Teledyne R-22D is actually our part number for the Analytical Industries PSR-11-39-MD.
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