Golem BOV & Swagelock Connections

Amarok · 20th November 2006, 21:17

OK - am perhaps dumber than a sack full of hammers but.....Have read some of the previous Swagelock QC articles posted and discussed with Mark the methods of matching up the Golem BOV to offboard gas incorporating the QC6 connections. Despite Marks great photos the guys here at Swagelock cant/dont have the adapters to make the connection from the BOV and from the 2nd Stage hose connection to their swagelok threads. Have also not had any response from M&J Engineering or Golem despite a couple of e-mails on adapters.
Does anyone have the specific adapter part number or size that will fit on the BOV inlet to a 1/4" NPT and vice versa from the 2nd stage hose end to a 1/4" NPT. Or has anyone got a listing on parts/part numbers for whole assembly. Thanks Mark for your help before but no luck so far.

**trob09** · 20th November 2006, 21:21

Quote: (Originally Posted by Keith Barke)

OK - am perhaps dumber than a sack full of hammers but.....Have read some of the previous Swagelock QC articles posted and discussed with Mark the methods of matching up the Golem BOV to offboard gas incorporating the QC6 connections. Despite Marks great photos the guys here at Swagelock cant/dont have the adapters to make the connection from the BOV and from the 2nd Stage hose connection to their swagelok threads. Have also not had any response from M&J Engineering or Golem despite a couple of e-mails on adapters.
Does anyone have the specific adapter part number or size that will fit on the BOV inlet to a 1/4" NPT and vice versa from the 2nd stage hose end to a 1/4" NPT. Or has anyone got a listing on parts/part numbers for whole assembly. Thanks Mark for your help before but no luck so far.

Depending on what you need:

ADT-2014A Adapter 9/16-18 Male TO 1/4" NPT Male, Low Pressure
ADT-2015 Adapter 3/8-24 Male TO 1/4" NPT Female, Low Pressure

Both can be found: here

Stephane · 20th November 2006, 21:27

Hi,

Martin from Tecme.de has a 9/16UNF to 1/4 Swagelok tubing here.
Or why dont you cut a regular hose and put a Swagelok push-on connector at the end?

diverklondike · 21st November 2006, 00:02

Quote: (Originally Posted by Keith Barke)

OK - am perhaps dumber than a sack full of hammers but.....Have read some of the previous Swagelock QC articles posted and discussed with Mark the methods of matching up the Golem BOV to offboard gas incorporating the QC6 connections. Despite Marks great photos the guys here at Swagelock cant/dont have the adapters to make the connection from the BOV and from the 2nd Stage hose connection to their swagelok threads. Have also not had any response from M&J Engineering or Golem despite a couple of e-mails on adapters.
Does anyone have the specific adapter part number or size that will fit on the BOV inlet to a 1/4" NPT and vice versa from the 2nd stage hose end to a 1/4" NPT. Or has anyone got a listing on parts/part numbers for whole assembly. Thanks Mark for your help before but no luck so far.

You are correct that Swagelok does not carry them....

As far as M&J goes... I have not had any issue with them and typically call them directly. Another source would be Northeast Scuba Supply in PA. Ask to speak to John Allan and let him know that I referred you.

Feel free to send me a private email if you need any more help at mark_nix@msn.com

Dive Safe...

M

**Steve** · 21st November 2006, 00:26

Quote: (Originally Posted by Tino Corp.)

Hi,

Martin from Tecme.de has a 9/16UNF to 1/4 Swagelok tubing here.
Or why dont you cut a regular hose and put a Swagelok push-on connector at the end?

Using normal scuba LP hose with the Swagelok push in connectors is a bad idea. They will part company. We went through this years ago on the KISS list and a few people tried it with bad results. The push on conectors are not all the same either. Swagelok are quite specific about what works with what and they are telling the truth.

LukeN · 21st November 2006, 00:38

And the qc6 series don't have enough flow if you look at the swag web site.

***ScubaDadMiami*** · 21st November 2006, 02:21

Not that I am directly in the know, but Jakub was at the NACD Conference and then at DEMA. He has always been very responsive. So, I would guess he is traveling if he is not answering.

I am pretty sure he has the parts that will work for this as I was discussing this with him within the last couple of weeks, and he indicated that although he did not have them at the time (meaning in his hand, not that he doesn't carry them), he would be able to obtain such parts that would provide for adequate gas flow and quick disconnection.

lof · 21st November 2006, 02:40

or you can try this:
Quick disconnect for BOV or second stage regulator.

diverklondike · 21st November 2006, 02:46

Quote: (Originally Posted by LukeN)

And the qc6 series don't have enough flow if you look at the swag web site.

I disagree with this... In practice I have used them without issue to 250fsw.

Dive Safe...

Mark

***Decodiver*** · 21st November 2006, 10:50

Quote: (Originally Posted by Steve)

Using normal scuba LP hose with the Swagelok push in connectors is a bad idea. They will part company. We went through this years ago on the KISS list and a few people tried it with bad results. The push on conectors are not all the same either. Swagelok are quite specific about what works with what and they are telling the truth.

Steve what would you recommend using with the Swageloks if LP hosing is lacking?

Cheers,

Dave.

20th November 2006, 21:17	#1 (permalink)
Amarok New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Alberta Canada Posts: 72	Golem BOV & Swagelock Connections OK - am perhaps dumber than a sack full of hammers but.....Have read some of the previous Swagelock QC articles posted and discussed with Mark the methods of matching up the Golem BOV to offboard gas incorporating the QC6 connections. Despite Marks great photos the guys here at Swagelock cant/dont have the adapters to make the connection from the BOV and from the 2nd Stage hose connection to their swagelok threads. Have also not had any response from M&J Engineering or Golem despite a couple of e-mails on adapters. Does anyone have the specific adapter part number or size that will fit on the BOV inlet to a 1/4" NPT and vice versa from the 2nd stage hose end to a 1/4" NPT. Or has anyone got a listing on parts/part numbers for whole assembly. Thanks Mark for your help before but no luck so far.
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20th November 2006, 21:21	#2 (permalink)
trob09 . Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 699	Re: Golem BOV & Swagelock Connections Quote: (Originally Posted by Keith Barke) OK - am perhaps dumber than a sack full of hammers but.....Have read some of the previous Swagelock QC articles posted and discussed with Mark the methods of matching up the Golem BOV to offboard gas incorporating the QC6 connections. Despite Marks great photos the guys here at Swagelock cant/dont have the adapters to make the connection from the BOV and from the 2nd Stage hose connection to their swagelok threads. Have also not had any response from M&J Engineering or Golem despite a couple of e-mails on adapters. Does anyone have the specific adapter part number or size that will fit on the BOV inlet to a 1/4" NPT and vice versa from the 2nd stage hose end to a 1/4" NPT. Or has anyone got a listing on parts/part numbers for whole assembly. Thanks Mark for your help before but no luck so far. Depending on what you need: ADT-2014A Adapter 9/16-18 Male TO 1/4" NPT Male, Low Pressure ADT-2015 Adapter 3/8-24 Male TO 1/4" NPT Female, Low Pressure Both can be found: here
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20th November 2006, 21:27	#3 (permalink)
Stephane Stéphane Acounis Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Nantes - France Posts: 769	Re: Golem BOV & Swagelock Connections Hi, Martin from Tecme.de has a 9/16UNF to 1/4 Swagelok tubing here. Or why dont you cut a regular hose and put a Swagelok push-on connector at the end? __________________ Stéphane
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21st November 2006, 00:02	#4 (permalink)
diverklondike Just one of the Peasants Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,613	Re: Golem BOV & Swagelock Connections Quote: (Originally Posted by Keith Barke) OK - am perhaps dumber than a sack full of hammers but.....Have read some of the previous Swagelock QC articles posted and discussed with Mark the methods of matching up the Golem BOV to offboard gas incorporating the QC6 connections. Despite Marks great photos the guys here at Swagelock cant/dont have the adapters to make the connection from the BOV and from the 2nd Stage hose connection to their swagelok threads. Have also not had any response from M&J Engineering or Golem despite a couple of e-mails on adapters. Does anyone have the specific adapter part number or size that will fit on the BOV inlet to a 1/4" NPT and vice versa from the 2nd stage hose end to a 1/4" NPT. Or has anyone got a listing on parts/part numbers for whole assembly. Thanks Mark for your help before but no luck so far. You are correct that Swagelok does not carry them.... As far as M&J goes... I have not had any issue with them and typically call them directly. Another source would be Northeast Scuba Supply in PA. Ask to speak to John Allan and let him know that I referred you. Feel free to send me a private email if you need any more help at mark_nix@msn.com Dive Safe... M
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21st November 2006, 00:26	#5 (permalink)
Steve Ladies bring a plate Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Perth - Australia Posts: 1,117	Re: Golem BOV & Swagelock Connections Quote: (Originally Posted by Tino Corp.) Hi, Martin from Tecme.de has a 9/16UNF to 1/4 Swagelok tubing here. Or why dont you cut a regular hose and put a Swagelok push-on connector at the end? Using normal scuba LP hose with the Swagelok push in connectors is a bad idea. They will part company. We went through this years ago on the KISS list and a few people tried it with bad results. The push on conectors are not all the same either. Swagelok are quite specific about what works with what and they are telling the truth. __________________ WARNING: I contain occasional coarse language, extreme sexual references, nudity, and adult themes, which may offend some people - Usually churchy types.
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21st November 2006, 00:38	#6 (permalink)
LukeN New Member Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Prism Topaz Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Australia,West Aus Posts: 84	Re: Golem BOV & Swagelock Connections And the qc6 series don't have enough flow if you look at the swag web site. __________________ Luke Nelson www.imagedive.com.au
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21st November 2006, 02:21	#7 (permalink)
*ScubaDadMiami* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 2,132	Re: Golem BOV & Swagelock Connections Not that I am directly in the know, but Jakub was at the NACD Conference and then at DEMA. He has always been very responsive. So, I would guess he is traveling if he is not answering. I am pretty sure he has the parts that will work for this as I was discussing this with him within the last couple of weeks, and he indicated that although he did not have them at the time (meaning in his hand, not that he doesn't carry them), he would be able to obtain such parts that would provide for adequate gas flow and quick disconnection. __________________ Howard Packer IANTD CCR Instructor Miami Beach, Florida CCRDiveTraining.com
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21st November 2006, 02:40	#8 (permalink)
lof RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: USA Posts: 480	Re: Golem BOV & Swagelock Connections or you can try this: Quick disconnect for BOV or second stage regulator. __________________ Jakub Golem Gear ShopKeeper www.golemgear.com
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21st November 2006, 02:46	#9 (permalink)
diverklondike Just one of the Peasants Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,613	Re: Golem BOV & Swagelock Connections Quote: (Originally Posted by LukeN) And the qc6 series don't have enough flow if you look at the swag web site. I disagree with this... In practice I have used them without issue to 250fsw. Dive Safe... Mark
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21st November 2006, 10:50	#10 (permalink)
*Decodiver* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 2,181	Re: Golem BOV & Swagelock Connections Quote: (Originally Posted by Steve) Using normal scuba LP hose with the Swagelok push in connectors is a bad idea. They will part company. We went through this years ago on the KISS list and a few people tried it with bad results. The push on conectors are not all the same either. Swagelok are quite specific about what works with what and they are telling the truth. Steve what would you recommend using with the Swageloks if LP hosing is lacking? Cheers, Dave. __________________ CCR/OC Trimix Instructor Trainer CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/COPIS-Megalodon/KISS/Sport KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com Rebreather World Terms & Conditions
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