new BOV

Ben Field · 18th April 2008, 14:08

Quote: (Originally Posted by Grizz)

What would 500 quid in U.S. green backs cost?

looks nice! Small

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CCR900 · 18th April 2008, 15:11

Grizz - About $1000 at the moment but if you read this in week then probably about $1200 :-)

Dave - I can't say i'm much of a fan of the twist grip (cold hands and all) but can I ask if the square block and rounded block are drilled from the same block of delrin? If not what's the risk of divers levering the mothpiece shut with the outer section (regulator section) and therefore putting stress on the join (if there is a join that is)?

Rgds

Fil

dave t · 18th April 2008, 15:29

Quote: (Originally Posted by CCR900)

Grizz - About $1000 at the moment but if you read this in week then probably about $1200 :-)

Dave - I can't say i'm much of a fan of the twist grip (cold hands and all) but can I ask if the square block and rounded block are drilled from the same block of delrin? If not what's the risk of divers levering the mothpiece shut with the outer section (regulator section) and therefore putting stress on the join (if there is a join that is)?

Rgds

Fil

Whaaa??
dont understand what you mean Fil

but the square block has the mouthbite port machined on it and the inner barrel rotates inside that. It works in exactly the same way as the standard inspo mouthpiece and although I agree there is some drawbacks to that design I belive its outweighed by the fact you can get good WOB from a large and unobstructed internal bore and its much more effecient at sealing of the inner and outer parts.
rebreather mouthpeices have traditionally always been built like this, look at examples of draeger and other long standing companies designs and you will almost certinally see a barrel in a barrel design.
There are thousands of inspo diver who work with this style of mouthpiece without too many problems.
To my mind the main drawback as I see it is its more difficult for a buddy to open or close this style than the ball valve type but as I said drawbacks are outweighed by advantages

best

Dave

CCR900 · 18th April 2008, 15:52

Dave.

I hear you, the bore is good and large. My question relates to how the regulator section is contected to the square block. Given the difficulty that some users have in rotating the barrel on a standard DSV from AP Diving I can imagine that the user will use the regulator as a lever.

If they do in deed use the regulator as a lever to open and close the mouthpiece I wish to ask if it could cause stress/leakage between the square block and the regulator block.

I could be well off the mark as I can't see the whole design.

I promise to improve my English....

Fil

dave t · 18th April 2008, 15:56

Quote: (Originally Posted by CCR900)

Dave.

I hear you, the bore is good and large. My question relates to how the regulator section is contected to the square block. Given the difficulty that some users have in rotating the barrel on a standard DSV from AP Diving I can imagine that the user will use the regulator as a lever.

If they do in deed use the regulator as a lever to open and close the mouthpiece I wish to ask if it could cause stress/leakage between the square block and the regulator block.

I could be well off the mark as I can't see the whole design.

I promise to improve my English....

Fil

Ah ok I see what you mean, no its all one piece there is no join between the square and the reg block

CCR900 · 18th April 2008, 15:58

Nice!!

divetheworld · 18th April 2008, 16:44

Quote: (Originally Posted by dave t)

To my mind the main drawback as I see it is its more difficult for a buddy to open or close this style than the ball valve type but as I said drawbacks are outweighed by advantages

best

Dave

Actually Dave, thats a matter of debate.
Having owned most of the BOV's on the market since the first Bob Howell with the exception of a Golem and Palagean I can state that they are not that easy to switch.
With this one I can easily switch over to OC with one hand with the barrel comfortably held by my mouth in the bite peice. All others I have had require another hand to steady it.

Brent

***diverklondike*** · 18th April 2008, 16:52

Quote: (Originally Posted by divetheworld)

Actually Dave, thats a matter of debate.
Having owned most of the BOV's on the market since the first Bob Howell with the exception of a Golem and Palagean I can state that they are not that easy to switch.
With this one I can easily switch over to OC with one hand with the barrel comfortably held by my mouth in the bite peice. All others I have had require another hand to steady it.

Brent

This can be done with one hand using a Golem Gear BOV...

Dave... This one looks interesting. It's nice to see someone else taking a swing at the rotating barrel.

M

pieater · 18th April 2008, 19:51

Quote: (Originally Posted by dave t)

I notice from your avtar you dive an rEvo which is fitted with a drager ray style mouthpiece right?

Correct.

Quote: (Originally Posted by dave t)

If I am right then this BOV works the same way except instead of a lever in the middle you just grasp one of the side nuts and turn!

Cool. Where can I see one of these things? I'm feeling an uncomfortable itch in my wallet

PnL · 19th April 2008, 22:54

This looks interesting. I'm glad to see other offerings on the market.

18th April 2008, 14:08	#21 (permalink)
Ben Field CK+Shearwater Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 1,482	Re: new BOV Quote: (Originally Posted by Grizz) What would 500 quid in U.S. green backs cost? looks nice! Small This is handy for buying dive bits abroad, amongst other things. XE.com - The World's Favorite Currency and Foreign Exchange Site __________________ www.hugsac.org.uk Beware Fridge Suck
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18th April 2008, 15:11	#22 (permalink)
CCR900 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: England Posts: 332	Re: new BOV Grizz - About $1000 at the moment but if you read this in week then probably about $1200 :-) Dave - I can't say i'm much of a fan of the twist grip (cold hands and all) but can I ask if the square block and rounded block are drilled from the same block of delrin? If not what's the risk of divers levering the mothpiece shut with the outer section (regulator section) and therefore putting stress on the join (if there is a join that is)? Rgds Fil
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18th April 2008, 15:29	#23 (permalink)
dave t Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Dolphin Ray Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Ray Azimuth Home Build Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts: 621	Re: new BOV Quote: (Originally Posted by CCR900) Grizz - About $1000 at the moment but if you read this in week then probably about $1200 :-) Dave - I can't say i'm much of a fan of the twist grip (cold hands and all) but can I ask if the square block and rounded block are drilled from the same block of delrin? If not what's the risk of divers levering the mothpiece shut with the outer section (regulator section) and therefore putting stress on the join (if there is a join that is)? Rgds Fil Whaaa?? dont understand what you mean Fil but the square block has the mouthbite port machined on it and the inner barrel rotates inside that. It works in exactly the same way as the standard inspo mouthpiece and although I agree there is some drawbacks to that design I belive its outweighed by the fact you can get good WOB from a large and unobstructed internal bore and its much more effecient at sealing of the inner and outer parts. rebreather mouthpeices have traditionally always been built like this, look at examples of draeger and other long standing companies designs and you will almost certinally see a barrel in a barrel design. There are thousands of inspo diver who work with this style of mouthpiece without too many problems. To my mind the main drawback as I see it is its more difficult for a buddy to open or close this style than the ball valve type but as I said drawbacks are outweighed by advantages best Dave
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18th April 2008, 15:52	#24 (permalink)
CCR900 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: England Posts: 332	New BOV Dave. I hear you, the bore is good and large. My question relates to how the regulator section is contected to the square block. Given the difficulty that some users have in rotating the barrel on a standard DSV from AP Diving I can imagine that the user will use the regulator as a lever. If they do in deed use the regulator as a lever to open and close the mouthpiece I wish to ask if it could cause stress/leakage between the square block and the regulator block. I could be well off the mark as I can't see the whole design. I promise to improve my English.... Fil
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18th April 2008, 15:56	#25 (permalink)
dave t Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Dolphin Ray Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Ray Azimuth Home Build Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts: 621	Re: New BOV Quote: (Originally Posted by CCR900) Dave. I hear you, the bore is good and large. My question relates to how the regulator section is contected to the square block. Given the difficulty that some users have in rotating the barrel on a standard DSV from AP Diving I can imagine that the user will use the regulator as a lever. If they do in deed use the regulator as a lever to open and close the mouthpiece I wish to ask if it could cause stress/leakage between the square block and the regulator block. I could be well off the mark as I can't see the whole design. I promise to improve my English.... Fil Ah ok I see what you mean, no its all one piece there is no join between the square and the reg block
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18th April 2008, 15:58	#26 (permalink)
CCR900 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: England Posts: 332	Re: new BOV Nice!!
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18th April 2008, 16:44	#27 (permalink)
divetheworld Dive porn pimp Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Classic Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Leeds, England Posts: 1,535	Re: new BOV Quote: (Originally Posted by dave t) To my mind the main drawback as I see it is its more difficult for a buddy to open or close this style than the ball valve type but as I said drawbacks are outweighed by advantages best Dave Actually Dave, thats a matter of debate. Having owned most of the BOV's on the market since the first Bob Howell with the exception of a Golem and Palagean I can state that they are not that easy to switch. With this one I can easily switch over to OC with one hand with the barrel comfortably held by my mouth in the bite peice. All others I have had require another hand to steady it. Brent __________________ Self praise is no reccomendation. Dont try to be a great man, just be a man and let history be the judge of you. CHECK OUT OUR INTERWEBS FOR CUSTOM REBREATHER UPGRADES *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *http://www.grpservices.com/pursuit/* Supporting Shearwater Research Products in Europe
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18th April 2008, 16:52	#28 (permalink)
*diverklondike* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,461	Re: new BOV Quote: (Originally Posted by divetheworld) Actually Dave, thats a matter of debate. Having owned most of the BOV's on the market since the first Bob Howell with the exception of a Golem and Palagean I can state that they are not that easy to switch. With this one I can easily switch over to OC with one hand with the barrel comfortably held by my mouth in the bite peice. All others I have had require another hand to steady it. Brent This can be done with one hand using a Golem Gear BOV... Dave... This one looks interesting. It's nice to see someone else taking a swing at the rotating barrel. M
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18th April 2008, 19:51	#29 (permalink)
pieater New Member Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 46	Re: new BOV Quote: (Originally Posted by dave t) I notice from your avtar you dive an rEvo which is fitted with a drager ray style mouthpiece right? Correct. Quote: (Originally Posted by dave t) If I am right then this BOV works the same way except instead of a lever in the middle you just grasp one of the side nuts and turn! Cool. Where can I see one of these things? I'm feeling an uncomfortable itch in my wallet
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PnL Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 169	Re: new BOV This looks interesting. I'm glad to see other offerings on the market. __________________ SDTechDiving.com - A San Diego Technical Diving Community
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