V4TEC or Golem ?

Borset · 8th November 2007, 15:54

I know that this subject was already more or less discussed on this forum, but ...

I am living in Belgium, Europe

VT4C Bov is selled by a german company at 680 Euros excluding tax
Golem Bov is selled by an amarican company et 650 Euros excluding tax

I do not know what I must choose for my Evolution Vision because with transport cost and importation tax, I think that the Golem Bov will cost me a lot more than the V4TEC

Soren Thomsen · 8th November 2007, 16:09

I have read that Rebreather World Store would be an European dealer Golem products. Hopefully that would meen a cheeper solutions for the European market.

Cheers
Soren

**PhilSiswick** · 8th November 2007, 16:47

Mark Chase had some issues with his V4TEC http://www.rebreatherworld.com/bail-...ighlight=v4tec, but from another thread, I understand that they are now resolved.

There are plenty of threads about the Golem - it seems to get very good write-ups indeed.

FWIW, I was trying to make the choice between the V4TEC and the Golem when someone listed a KISS BOV on here. I got that for a very good price (about half the price of a V4TEC or Golem) with the Inspo adaptors. So far, it's going very well. It might not be as good as the other two, but for what I do (up to 50m, no overhead and limited deco for now), it's just the ticket.

Colin Icky was listing their KISS BOV on here, with Inspo adaptors, a couple of weeks ago for an even better price than I paid http://www.rebreatherworld.com/rebre...light=KISS+BOV

Good luck,

diverklondike · 8th November 2007, 17:16

I personally dive a Golem and am very happy with it. Many of my fellow divers are also using them and very happy with them.

Dive Safe

Mark

AMW · 8th November 2007, 17:19

I get on very well with my V4TEC BOV , as with lots of things people make there own choices based on a lot of criteria.

Andrew.

Gary Graham · 8th November 2007, 17:29

[quote=PhilSiswick;149417]Mark Chase had some issues with his V4TEC http://www.rebreatherworld.com/bail-...ighlight=v4tec, but from another thread, I understand that they are now resolved.quote]

Mark Chase resolved his issues with his V4Tec by selling it to me!!

I was'nt too impressed with it to be honest.

Too big and heavy for me for to hold in my mouth for any length of time.

It would'nt hold negative test either, which to be honest I knew about before I bought it, but it became frustrating after a while.

Did a couple of dives with it and promptly sold it on eBay (for a bit more than I paid for it

)

I know there are others on here who use the V4Tec and swear by them, but I would'nt use one again, but as Andrew says people make their own choices.

Just my two penneth

Dive safe,

Gary

mathias · 8th November 2007, 17:55

i never had any problems. the new v4tec hold pos. and neg. tests without problems. and peter from v4tec is reely ok, quick respond on e-mail 24h a day.
mathias

colinicky · 8th November 2007, 18:10

[quote=Gary Graham;149429]

Quote: (Originally Posted by PhilSiswick)

Mark Chase had some issues with his V4TEC http://www.rebreatherworld.com/bail-...ighlight=v4tec, but from another thread, I understand that they are now resolved.quote]

Mark Chase resolved his issues with his V4Tec by selling it to me!!

I was'nt too impressed with it to be honest.

Too big and heavy for me for to hold in my mouth for any length of time.

It would'nt hold negative test either, which to be honest I knew about before I bought it, but it became frustrating after a while.

Did a couple of dives with it and promptly sold it on eBay (for a bit more than I paid for it

)

I know there are others on here who use the V4Tec and swear by them, but I would'nt use one again, but as Andrew says people make their own choices.

Just my two penneth

Dive safe,

Gary

& that was after I had it on a trial basis & decided it was to heavy as well !

I know there is now a modification for the V4tec that is standard on their new ones & I believe can be retro fitted to the older ones that resolved the +/- test issues .

I do still have a Kiss Bov with Inspo adapters for sale .I thought it was sold but got messed around by someone on another forum

AMW · 8th November 2007, 18:20

Quote:

I know there is now a modification for the V4tec that is standard on their new ones & I believe can be retro fitted to the older ones that resolved the +/- test issues .

Yes :
http://www.v4tec.de/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.f lypage&product_id=55&category_id=10&manufacturer_i d=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=27〈=en

Andrew

Gary Graham · 8th November 2007, 18:22

Quote: (Originally Posted by Borset)

I know that this subject was already more or less discussed on this forum, but ...

I am living in Belgium, Europe

VT4C Bov is selled by a german company at 680 Euros excluding tax
Golem Bov is selled by an amarican company et 650 Euros excluding tax

I do not know what I must choose for my Evolution Vision because with transport cost and importation tax, I think that the Golem Bov will cost me a lot more than the V4TEC

A third option is to wait and see what the AP BOV is like, performance and price wise, when it goes on sale to the public sometime in 2008.

There's pictures and write ups on it somewhere on Rebreather World, it was shown at the Birimingham Dive Show last month.

Dive safe,

Gary

8th November 2007, 15:54	#1 (permalink)
Borset New Member Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon Dolphin Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 16	V4TEC or Golem ? I know that this subject was already more or less discussed on this forum, but ... I am living in Belgium, Europe VT4C Bov is selled by a german company at 680 Euros excluding tax Golem Bov is selled by an amarican company et 650 Euros excluding tax I do not know what I must choose for my Evolution Vision because with transport cost and importation tax, I think that the Golem Bov will cost me a lot more than the V4TEC
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8th November 2007, 16:09	#2 (permalink)
Soren Thomsen Happy Hippo Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Not Bought Yet Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 147	Re: V4TEC or Golem ? I have read that Rebreather World Store would be an European dealer Golem products. Hopefully that would meen a cheeper solutions for the European market. Cheers Soren __________________ - Giraffes were created when Chuck Norris uppercutted a horse -
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8th November 2007, 16:47	#3 (permalink)
PhilSiswick Phil Siswick, Tango Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 995	Re: V4TEC or Golem ? Mark Chase had some issues with his V4TEC http://www.rebreatherworld.com/bail-...ighlight=v4tec, but from another thread, I understand that they are now resolved. There are plenty of threads about the Golem - it seems to get very good write-ups indeed. FWIW, I was trying to make the choice between the V4TEC and the Golem when someone listed a KISS BOV on here. I got that for a very good price (about half the price of a V4TEC or Golem) with the Inspo adaptors. So far, it's going very well. It might not be as good as the other two, but for what I do (up to 50m, no overhead and limited deco for now), it's just the ticket. Colin Icky was listing their KISS BOV on here, with Inspo adaptors, a couple of weeks ago for an even better price than I paid http://www.rebreatherworld.com/rebre...light=KISS+BOV Good luck, __________________ Phil (WSKD 0001) I have always felt that the dive I am on is not nearly important as the dives I plan to be on the rest of my life. Tom Rose, 2007 The person who gets the farthest is generally the one who is willing to do and dare. The sure thing boat never gets far from shore. Charles A. Lindbergh www.hugsac.org.uk
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8th November 2007, 17:16	#4 (permalink)
diverklondike Just one of the Peasants Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,611	Re: V4TEC or Golem ? I personally dive a Golem and am very happy with it. Many of my fellow divers are also using them and very happy with them. Dive Safe Mark
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8th November 2007, 17:19	#5 (permalink)
AMW Andrew Martin Ward Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cam ,Glos, England Posts: 171	Re: V4TEC or Golem ? I get on very well with my V4TEC BOV , as with lots of things people make there own choices based on a lot of criteria. Andrew. __________________ AMW Blog (very poor effort :-) http://a-m-ward.blogspot.com/ http://amward.myblogsite.com/ Lot ,France cave diving sites and area resources. www.lot46.com Caving and cave diving photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/amward/
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8th November 2007, 17:29	#6 (permalink)
Gary Graham Classic KISS #103 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: St Helens, UK Posts: 106	Re: V4TEC or Golem ? [quote=PhilSiswick;149417]Mark Chase had some issues with his V4TEC http://www.rebreatherworld.com/bail-...ighlight=v4tec, but from another thread, I understand that they are now resolved.quote] Mark Chase resolved his issues with his V4Tec by selling it to me!! I was'nt too impressed with it to be honest. Too big and heavy for me for to hold in my mouth for any length of time. It would'nt hold negative test either, which to be honest I knew about before I bought it, but it became frustrating after a while. Did a couple of dives with it and promptly sold it on eBay (for a bit more than I paid for it ) I know there are others on here who use the V4Tec and swear by them, but I would'nt use one again, but as Andrew says people make their own choices. Just my two penneth Dive safe, Gary __________________ CK#103
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8th November 2007, 17:55	#7 (permalink)
mathias Ouroboros #31 Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic MK 15.X Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Switzerland - Murten Posts: 184	Re: V4TEC or Golem ? i never had any problems. the new v4tec hold pos. and neg. tests without problems. and peter from v4tec is reely ok, quick respond on e-mail 24h a day. mathias __________________ Our dreams are other people's nightmares ;-) Plus près du fond, plus loin des cons !
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8th November 2007, 18:10	#8 (permalink)
colinicky Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: uk Posts: 667	Re: V4TEC or Golem ? [quote=Gary Graham;149429] Quote: (Originally Posted by PhilSiswick) Mark Chase had some issues with his V4TEC http://www.rebreatherworld.com/bail-...ighlight=v4tec, but from another thread, I understand that they are now resolved.quote] Mark Chase resolved his issues with his V4Tec by selling it to me!! I was'nt too impressed with it to be honest. Too big and heavy for me for to hold in my mouth for any length of time. It would'nt hold negative test either, which to be honest I knew about before I bought it, but it became frustrating after a while. Did a couple of dives with it and promptly sold it on eBay (for a bit more than I paid for it ) I know there are others on here who use the V4Tec and swear by them, but I would'nt use one again, but as Andrew says people make their own choices. Just my two penneth Dive safe, Gary & that was after I had it on a trial basis & decided it was to heavy as well ! I know there is now a modification for the V4tec that is standard on their new ones & I believe can be retro fitted to the older ones that resolved the +/- test issues . I do still have a Kiss Bov with Inspo adapters for sale .I thought it was sold but got messed around by someone on another forum __________________ Colin I trust my rebreather completely , I just don't trust the user onwards & downwards
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8th November 2007, 18:20	#9 (permalink)
AMW Andrew Martin Ward Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cam ,Glos, England Posts: 171	Re: V4TEC or Golem ? Quote: I know there is now a modification for the V4tec that is standard on their new ones & I believe can be retro fitted to the older ones that resolved the +/- test issues . Yes : http://www.v4tec.de/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.f lypage&product_id=55&category_id=10&manufacturer_i d=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=27〈=en Andrew __________________ AMW Blog (very poor effort :-) http://a-m-ward.blogspot.com/ http://amward.myblogsite.com/ Lot ,France cave diving sites and area resources. www.lot46.com Caving and cave diving photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/amward/
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8th November 2007, 18:22	#10 (permalink)
Gary Graham Classic KISS #103 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: St Helens, UK Posts: 106	Re: V4TEC or Golem ? Quote: (Originally Posted by Borset) I know that this subject was already more or less discussed on this forum, but ... I am living in Belgium, Europe VT4C Bov is selled by a german company at 680 Euros excluding tax Golem Bov is selled by an amarican company et 650 Euros excluding tax I do not know what I must choose for my Evolution Vision because with transport cost and importation tax, I think that the Golem Bov will cost me a lot more than the V4TEC A third option is to wait and see what the AP BOV is like, performance and price wise, when it goes on sale to the public sometime in 2008. There's pictures and write ups on it somewhere on Rebreather World, it was shown at the Birimingham Dive Show last month. Dive safe, Gary __________________ CK#103
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