New Golem BOV?

DanFountain · 6th November 2007, 14:56

There's a photo of the new Golem BOV in the DEMA gallery. Any info about it? Jakub?
Thanks!

-Dan

diverreb · 6th November 2007, 16:43

Quote: (Originally Posted by DanFountain)

There's a photo of the new Golem BOV in the DEMA gallery. Any info about it? Jakub?
Thanks!

-Dan

It has a smaller second stage than the original so it's a little lower profile. The weight is about the same as the original, maybe a hair lighter. It was a prototype at the show and the production model, if it all proves out, should be available around January/February or so. Jakub said he should probably have them at Beneath The Sea, which is in March. The second stage will be available as an option to add to the current models if one chooses to do so.

Richie

***ScubaDadMiami*** · 6th November 2007, 17:11

Also, it uses a different brand of mushroom valves. From what I learned, there is no real performance difference; it is just a question of size and parts availability.

Chris · 18th January 2008, 14:08

Jakub

I am in the market for a new BOV for the Meg and Panorama combination, do you have a release date for these yet and what’s the WOB like with that little diaphragm compared to the full size ones?

Cheers
Chris

lof · 21st January 2008, 00:54

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chris)

Jakub

I am in the market for a new BOV for the Meg and Panorama combination, do you have a release date for these yet and what’s the WOB like with that little diaphragm compared to the full size ones?

Cheers
Chris

We have Meg BOVs and Panoramas in stock. The smaller 2nd stage will be a drop-in replacement for the current hi-performance 2nd stage.
We are redesigning the smaller regulator as the we were not statified with its performance at depth.

decoweenie · 21st January 2008, 06:15

Quote: (Originally Posted by lof)

...The smaller 2nd stage will be a drop-in replacement for the current hi-performance 2nd stage...

Thank you for taking into consideration the existing customers using GG BOV.

For those who like me have a couple of GG BOV, this would give me the option to chose the BOV depending on dive purpose.

Just make sure it is ready by March when I will be in the US *please*...

Lancer4545 · 21st January 2008, 07:40

Quote: (Originally Posted by diverreb)

It has a smaller second stage than the original so it's a little lower profile. The weight is about the same as the original, maybe a hair lighter. Richie

Considering it's the same weight and the new second stage is not up to expectations at depth I am beginning to think I will stick with the one I already have which works perfectly.

"If it ain't broke don't fix it"

Lance

decoweenie · 21st January 2008, 08:07

Quote: (Originally Posted by Lancer4545)

Considering it's the same weight and the new second stage is not up to expectations at depth I am beginning to think I will stick with the one I already have which works perfectly.

You have just done your MOD-2 so some of these might be applicable to you, but keep in mind...

If the weight is correct right now u/w (i.e. neutral) with your set-up, what would (dry) lighter weight benefit you ?

If the intention to use the BOV as the medium to get off the unit while getting the OC from the stage, why do you need the absolute best breathing 2nd-stage on it ?

On the other hand, having a smaller surface will help reducing drag, and subsequent effort to bite, when scootering.

Mark Chase · 21st January 2008, 10:11

Quote: (Originally Posted by Lancer4545)

Considering it's the same weight and the new second stage is not up to expectations at depth I am beginning to think I will stick with the one I already have which works perfectly.

"If it ain't broke don't fix it"

Lance

Have you tried it upside down?

OK were not upside down much

My only concern about the present unit is the difficulty in obtaining and the cost of replacement diaphragms. The reg breaths very wet if its inverted which is a surprise too.

I found the WOB on the present unit to be comparable to the standard KISS unit.

ATB

Mark

decoweenie · 21st January 2008, 10:23

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

...My only concern about the present unit is the difficulty in obtaining and the cost of replacement diaphragms. The reg breaths very wet if its inverted which is a surprise too...

Isn't the GG BOV using the Apeks parts ?

IIRC from my OC days, Apeks second stages were quite wet when upside down as well but is a relatively easy problem to fix.

6th November 2007, 14:56	#1 (permalink)
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6th November 2007, 16:43	#2 (permalink)
diverreb DE/MD/NJ Wreck Diver Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Dover, DE Posts: 468	Re: New Golem BOV? Quote: (Originally Posted by DanFountain) There's a photo of the new Golem BOV in the DEMA gallery. Any info about it? Jakub? Thanks! -Dan It has a smaller second stage than the original so it's a little lower profile. The weight is about the same as the original, maybe a hair lighter. It was a prototype at the show and the production model, if it all proves out, should be available around January/February or so. Jakub said he should probably have them at Beneath The Sea, which is in March. The second stage will be available as an option to add to the current models if one chooses to do so. Richie
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6th November 2007, 17:11	#3 (permalink)
*ScubaDadMiami* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 1,887	Re: New Golem BOV? Also, it uses a different brand of mushroom valves. From what I learned, there is no real performance difference; it is just a question of size and parts availability. __________________ Howard Packer IANTD CCR Instructor Miami Beach, Florida CCRDiveTraining.com
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18th January 2008, 14:08	#4 (permalink)
Chris Go Nude Or Go Home Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 599	Re: New Golem BOV? Jakub I am in the market for a new BOV for the Meg and Panorama combination, do you have a release date for these yet and what’s the WOB like with that little diaphragm compared to the full size ones? Cheers Chris __________________ Megalodon Sorb and Sensors whilst in Australia www.divetub.com.au Diving & Photography @ www.uwphotog.com
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21st January 2008, 00:54	#5 (permalink)
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21st January 2008, 06:15	#6 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,509	Re: New Golem BOV? Quote: (Originally Posted by lof) ...The smaller 2nd stage will be a drop-in replacement for the current hi-performance 2nd stage... Thank you for taking into consideration the existing customers using GG BOV. For those who like me have a couple of GG BOV, this would give me the option to chose the BOV depending on dive purpose. Just make sure it is ready by March when I will be in the US please...
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21st January 2008, 07:40	#7 (permalink)
Lancer4545 Closed Circuit Divers Aus Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cairns QLD Australia Posts: 527	Re: New Golem BOV? Quote: (Originally Posted by diverreb) It has a smaller second stage than the original so it's a little lower profile. The weight is about the same as the original, maybe a hair lighter. Richie Considering it's the same weight and the new second stage is not up to expectations at depth I am beginning to think I will stick with the one I already have which works perfectly. "If it ain't broke don't fix it" Lance __________________ You can run but you can't hide! ISC Appointed Megalodon Dealer for East Australia http://www.closedcircuitdivers.com.au info@closedcircuitdivers.com.au
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21st January 2008, 08:07	#8 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,509	Re: New Golem BOV? Quote: (Originally Posted by Lancer4545) Considering it's the same weight and the new second stage is not up to expectations at depth I am beginning to think I will stick with the one I already have which works perfectly. You have just done your MOD-2 so some of these might be applicable to you, but keep in mind... If the weight is correct right now u/w (i.e. neutral) with your set-up, what would (dry) lighter weight benefit you ? If the intention to use the BOV as the medium to get off the unit while getting the OC from the stage, why do you need the absolute best breathing 2nd-stage on it ? On the other hand, having a smaller surface will help reducing drag, and subsequent effort to bite, when scootering.
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21st January 2008, 10:11	#9 (permalink)
Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,407	Re: New Golem BOV? Quote: (Originally Posted by Lancer4545) Considering it's the same weight and the new second stage is not up to expectations at depth I am beginning to think I will stick with the one I already have which works perfectly. "If it ain't broke don't fix it" Lance Have you tried it upside down? OK were not upside down much My only concern about the present unit is the difficulty in obtaining and the cost of replacement diaphragms. The reg breaths very wet if its inverted which is a surprise too. I found the WOB on the present unit to be comparable to the standard KISS unit. ATB Mark __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System
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21st January 2008, 10:23	#10 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,509	Re: New Golem BOV? Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase) ...My only concern about the present unit is the difficulty in obtaining and the cost of replacement diaphragms. The reg breaths very wet if its inverted which is a surprise too... Isn't the GG BOV using the Apeks parts ? IIRC from my OC days, Apeks second stages were quite wet when upside down as well but is a relatively easy problem to fix.
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