BOV or ADV

Ferg3333 · 18th June 2007, 20:07

Hi Guys, I dive a classic inspo as it came originally. Now I am starting to push it towards deeper 50-60m range diving for the time being before moving onto full mix. My question is, what is the preferrable order of buying things, if I buy the adv I can add GCS so I can plug in offboard dil and still have wing inflate, whereas with a whip I would only have drysuit which is not a problem. Or do I bite the bullet and buy a BOV now, quite like the look of the golem ones, but could really do with some advice.

Cheers

Ferg

Mark Chase · 18th June 2007, 20:14

ADV is a conveniance and a BOV is a life saver.

As for breathing off a ADV???

Bov's work on flooded units and ADV's dont always.

The Golum is an Apex internals and breathes like an Apex and the ADV on my Classic breathed like an asmatic on a bad day.

To me there is no contest but others will no doubt disagree.

ATB

Mark Chase

PCDiver · 18th June 2007, 20:33

you can also wait for the APD BOV to be realesed by the end of the year. It will combine a BOV and an ADV.

paulraymaekers · 18th June 2007, 20:43

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

ADV is a conveniance and a BOV is a life saver.
As for breathing off a ADV???
Bov's work on flooded units and ADV's dont always.
The Golum is an Apex internals and breathes like an Apex and the ADV on my Classic breathed like an asmatic on a bad day.

... and thats the way it should be: and ADV is not a second stage, is serves just to compensate volume decrease when descending
an ADV must have high resistence when breathing from it, so that you feel that you activate it: if not, you break your mix far to easy during deco, by inspiring diluent unwanted

paul

***diverklondike*** · 18th June 2007, 20:56

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

ADV is a conveniance and a BOV is a life saver.

As for breathing off a ADV???

Bov's work on flooded units and ADV's dont always.

The Golum is an Apex internals and breathes like an Apex and the ADV on my Classic breathed like an asmatic on a bad day.

To me there is no contest but others will no doubt disagree.

ATB

Mark Chase

Ditto.. Ditto... We all know better than to disagree with you...

Dive Safe...

Mark

abowie · 18th June 2007, 21:16

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

ADV is a convenience and a BOV is a life saver.

Mark Chase

What he said.

Ferg3333 · 18th June 2007, 21:27

Dunno whether I'll wait for the AP I'll see how my diving progresses, but I do believe that if anything was gonna kill me on a breather it would be co2 and the inability to get off the loop.

Is the golem recommended? Are there any significant problems I should take note of? Such as inability to hold a neg test etc

PCDiver · 18th June 2007, 21:43

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ferg3333)

Dunno whether I'll wait for the AP I'll see how my diving progresses, but I do believe that if anything was gonna kill me on a breather it would be co2 and the inability to get off the loop.

Is the golem recommended? Are there any significant problems I should take note of? Such as inability to hold a neg test etc

It's a great piece of kit. Really well made.

rdmmdr · 18th June 2007, 22:04

bov first it might end up saving your life. golems is nice , i use tracy's because i intend to upgrade it to full face and he has an adapter for the aga already. and you can use your old regs with tracy's. that said he can be a bit of a bother to get a hold of right now, that should get better in the coming months. i cant speak for the golem but tracy's have no problem with neg and pos test.
rick

Explorer · 18th June 2007, 22:09

Bite the bullet and buy a Golem BOV. It's sweet.

18th June 2007, 20:07	#1 (permalink)
Ferg3333 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Blackpool Posts: 123	BOV or ADV Hi Guys, I dive a classic inspo as it came originally. Now I am starting to push it towards deeper 50-60m range diving for the time being before moving onto full mix. My question is, what is the preferrable order of buying things, if I buy the adv I can add GCS so I can plug in offboard dil and still have wing inflate, whereas with a whip I would only have drysuit which is not a problem. Or do I bite the bullet and buy a BOV now, quite like the look of the golem ones, but could really do with some advice. Cheers Ferg
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18th June 2007, 20:14	#2 (permalink)
Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,561	Re: BOV or ADV ADV is a conveniance and a BOV is a life saver. As for breathing off a ADV??? Bov's work on flooded units and ADV's dont always. The Golum is an Apex internals and breathes like an Apex and the ADV on my Classic breathed like an asmatic on a bad day. To me there is no contest but others will no doubt disagree. ATB Mark Chase __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System
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18th June 2007, 20:33	#3 (permalink)
PCDiver Submerge Productions Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 938	Re: BOV or ADV you can also wait for the APD BOV to be realesed by the end of the year. It will combine a BOV and an ADV.
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18th June 2007, 20:43	#4 (permalink)
paulraymaekers rEvo's daddy Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Join Date: May 2005 Location: belgium Posts: 1,437	Re: BOV or ADV Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase) ADV is a conveniance and a BOV is a life saver. As for breathing off a ADV??? Bov's work on flooded units and ADV's dont always. The Golum is an Apex internals and breathes like an Apex and the ADV on my Classic breathed like an asmatic on a bad day. ... and thats the way it should be: and ADV is not a second stage, is serves just to compensate volume decrease when descending an ADV must have high resistence when breathing from it, so that you feel that you activate it: if not, you break your mix far to easy during deco, by inspiring diluent unwanted paul __________________ www.rEvo-rebreathers.com .... the earth is flat, Elvis is alive, and radial scrubbers give longer dwell time than axials...
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18th June 2007, 20:56	#5 (permalink)
*diverklondike* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,561	Re: BOV or ADV Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase) ADV is a conveniance and a BOV is a life saver. As for breathing off a ADV??? Bov's work on flooded units and ADV's dont always. The Golum is an Apex internals and breathes like an Apex and the ADV on my Classic breathed like an asmatic on a bad day. To me there is no contest but others will no doubt disagree. ATB Mark Chase Ditto.. Ditto... We all know better than to disagree with you... Dive Safe... Mark
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18th June 2007, 21:16	#6 (permalink)
abowie Fighting Girl Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Land of Oz Posts: 573	Re: BOV or ADV Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase) ADV is a convenience and a BOV is a life saver. Mark Chase What he said. __________________ Andrew Bowie Rebreather-friendly Buddy
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18th June 2007, 21:27	#7 (permalink)
Ferg3333 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Blackpool Posts: 123	Re: BOV or ADV Dunno whether I'll wait for the AP I'll see how my diving progresses, but I do believe that if anything was gonna kill me on a breather it would be co2 and the inability to get off the loop. Is the golem recommended? Are there any significant problems I should take note of? Such as inability to hold a neg test etc
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18th June 2007, 21:43	#8 (permalink)
PCDiver Submerge Productions Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 938	Re: BOV or ADV Quote: (Originally Posted by Ferg3333) Dunno whether I'll wait for the AP I'll see how my diving progresses, but I do believe that if anything was gonna kill me on a breather it would be co2 and the inability to get off the loop. Is the golem recommended? Are there any significant problems I should take note of? Such as inability to hold a neg test etc It's a great piece of kit. Really well made.
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18th June 2007, 22:04	#9 (permalink)
rdmmdr designer of death Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: kerman,california Posts: 372	Re: BOV or ADV bov first it might end up saving your life. golems is nice , i use tracy's because i intend to upgrade it to full face and he has an adapter for the aga already. and you can use your old regs with tracy's. that said he can be a bit of a bother to get a hold of right now, that should get better in the coming months. i cant speak for the golem but tracy's have no problem with neg and pos test. rick
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18th June 2007, 22:09	#10 (permalink)
Explorer I will teach you a..... Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 763	Re: BOV or ADV Bite the bullet and buy a Golem BOV. It's sweet. __________________ REALLY FRICKIN' TRAIN WRECKED.....
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