Adjusting Kiss Paragon ? How ?

colinicky · 30th April 2007, 13:32

Quote: (Originally Posted by RAL)

Do a search on Paragon. I think you may find that at on a good day it is an unreliable poor performer. Not exactly the description of the things one looks for in life support gear.
Do yourself a favor be safe & replace the little bugger.

Regards
RAL

Yes but personally I don't like Mares !

RAL · 30th April 2007, 14:06

Quote: (Originally Posted by colinicky)

Yes but personally I don't like Mares !

Mares is not the only option you have. I replaced mine with a SP G-500. There is a current thread about a nice Atomic convertion with references to a few other regs that have been called into service to replace the Paragon. Some use the new adaptor some do not. The biggest hurdle is taking a good second stage & putting it to the knife. It all gets easier after the first few passes with the hacksaw

Regards
RAL

Ben Field · 30th April 2007, 14:28

My usual tuning proceedure is-

1. Disconnect LP feed hose.

2. Unscrew and remove stainless clamp between BOV and Paragon.

3. Remove o-rings from Paragon mouthpiece.

4. Insert Paragon into dustbin.

5. Fit anything (chewing gum, cheese, broken/locked paragon, old carpet, SNOG Valve, Mares POS) to keep BOV dry.

6. Sit back, open Cider- relax.

regards,
BEN

RAL · 30th April 2007, 14:59

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field)

My usual tuning proceedure is-

1. Disconnect LP feed hose.

2. Unscrew and remove stainless clamp between BOV and Paragon.

3. Remove o-rings from Paragon mouthpiece.

4. Insert Paragon into dustbin.

5. Fit anything (chewing gum, cheese, broken/locked paragon, old carpet, SNOG Valve, Mares POS) to keep BOV dry.

6. Sit back, open Cider- relax.

regards,
BEN

Ben you forgot to fine tune Paragon using repeated sharp blows with 4lb maul before step 4. After all you would not someone to mistake it for a regulator if they came across it.

Regards
RAL

***Decodiver*** · 30th April 2007, 16:48

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field)

My usual tuning proceedure is-

1. Disconnect LP feed hose.

2. Unscrew and remove stainless clamp between BOV and Paragon.

3. Remove o-rings from Paragon mouthpiece.

4. Insert Paragon into dustbin.

5. Fit anything (chewing gum, cheese, broken/locked paragon, old carpet, SNOG Valve, Mares POS) to keep BOV dry.

6. Sit back, open Cider- relax.

regards,
BEN

LMFAO! Have some green.

Cheers,

Dave Cooper.

**Dave Sutton** · 30th April 2007, 17:07

You missed the pre-adjustment test, as some are not worth even the adjustments advised:

We float test them first:

Procedure:

(1): Remove from DSV.
(2): Toss into ocean.
(3): Observe results.

Any that float are retrieved for further adjustment. Those that do not float are abandoned to King Neptune, who has a special place in Davy Jones Locker for unreliable diving crap.

The Mares has been fine, just wish the damned thing were not yellow.

Dave

30th April 2007, 13:32	#11 (permalink)
colinicky Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: uk Posts: 667	Re: Adjusting Kiss Paragon ? How ? Quote: (Originally Posted by RAL) Do a search on Paragon. I think you may find that at on a good day it is an unreliable poor performer. Not exactly the description of the things one looks for in life support gear. Do yourself a favor be safe & replace the little bugger. Regards RAL Yes but personally I don't like Mares ! __________________ Colin I trust my rebreather completely , I just don't trust the user onwards & downwards
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30th April 2007, 14:06	#12 (permalink)
RAL Longbottom Time Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Florida Posts: 386	Re: Adjusting Kiss Paragon ? How ? Quote: (Originally Posted by colinicky) Yes but personally I don't like Mares ! Mares is not the only option you have. I replaced mine with a SP G-500. There is a current thread about a nice Atomic convertion with references to a few other regs that have been called into service to replace the Paragon. Some use the new adaptor some do not. The biggest hurdle is taking a good second stage & putting it to the knife. It all gets easier after the first few passes with the hacksaw Regards RAL __________________ The sea does not care about you.
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30th April 2007, 14:28	#13 (permalink)
Ben Field CK+Shearwater Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 1,559	Re: Adjusting Kiss Paragon ? How ? My usual tuning proceedure is- 1. Disconnect LP feed hose. 2. Unscrew and remove stainless clamp between BOV and Paragon. 3. Remove o-rings from Paragon mouthpiece. 4. Insert Paragon into dustbin. 5. Fit anything (chewing gum, cheese, broken/locked paragon, old carpet, SNOG Valve, Mares POS) to keep BOV dry. 6. Sit back, open Cider- relax. regards, BEN __________________ www.hugsac.org.uk Beware Fridge Suck
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30th April 2007, 14:59	#14 (permalink)
RAL Longbottom Time Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Florida Posts: 386	Re: Adjusting Kiss Paragon ? How ? Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field) My usual tuning proceedure is- 1. Disconnect LP feed hose. 2. Unscrew and remove stainless clamp between BOV and Paragon. 3. Remove o-rings from Paragon mouthpiece. 4. Insert Paragon into dustbin. 5. Fit anything (chewing gum, cheese, broken/locked paragon, old carpet, SNOG Valve, Mares POS) to keep BOV dry. 6. Sit back, open Cider- relax. regards, BEN Ben you forgot to fine tune Paragon using repeated sharp blows with 4lb maul before step 4. After all you would not someone to mistake it for a regulator if they came across it. Regards RAL __________________ The sea does not care about you.
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30th April 2007, 16:48	#15 (permalink)
*Decodiver* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Ouroboros rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Sport Kiss Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 2,178	Re: Adjusting Kiss Paragon ? How ? Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field) My usual tuning proceedure is- 1. Disconnect LP feed hose. 2. Unscrew and remove stainless clamp between BOV and Paragon. 3. Remove o-rings from Paragon mouthpiece. 4. Insert Paragon into dustbin. 5. Fit anything (chewing gum, cheese, broken/locked paragon, old carpet, SNOG Valve, Mares POS) to keep BOV dry. 6. Sit back, open Cider- relax. regards, BEN LMFAO! Have some green. Cheers, Dave Cooper. __________________ CCR/OC Trimix Instructor Trainer CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/COPIS-Megalodon/KISS/Sport KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com Rebreather World Terms & Conditions
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30th April 2007, 17:07	#16 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Living on Animal Farm Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey Posts: 2,637	Re: Adjusting Kiss Paragon ? How ? You missed the pre-adjustment test, as some are not worth even the adjustments advised: We float test them first: Procedure: (1): Remove from DSV. (2): Toss into ocean. (3): Observe results. Any that float are retrieved for further adjustment. Those that do not float are abandoned to King Neptune, who has a special place in Davy Jones Locker for unreliable diving crap. The Mares has been fine, just wish the damned thing were not yellow. Dave __________________ On a diving safari for a few months... will likely not read PM's... so email me at RedStarAviation at GMail dot Com to find me......
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