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Old 6th January 2007, 01:36   #101 (permalink)
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Re: Minimising Rebreather Deaths / Fatalities

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton) View Original Post
It flashes *when the solenoid is commanded to fire*, IE: When is *should* fire. If it's been isolated off, it'll still be "under command to fire" by the pod, so a blue LED then means *push manual add*.

Sort of a nice feature.

Dave
Is it? A bit ambiguous isn't it if it flashes when it injects or its stuck open or stuck closed. I don't see the added value, especially if you can't hear the solenoid.

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mdemon) View Original Post
As DrMik/RichC/DW said, what the Hell's the point in having electronics if you then ignore them and do a sloppier job by doing it manually?

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Who said anything about ignoring electronics. It is all about building maintaining a proper monitoring habit. If you don't want to push your manual inject, then let the solenoid fire when you expect it.

Quote: (Originally Posted by robvdmr13) View Original Post
As stated in the thread if CCR is inherently more dangerous than OC, that`s what the pilots in the big aircraft do as well. They let the autopilot fly whilst monitoring all the functions. They don`t fly themselves and use the autopilot as a backup system for when the pilot fails.

Robert
Irrelevant argument

Quote: (Originally Posted by RichClark) View Original Post
I see the benefit of running manually (but if you do, buy a KISS or some other mCCR) I did because I have an inherent distrust of electronics and I can fix my KISS anywhere.

If you choose eCCR, then use it - you bought the 'E' for a reason remember.

I've never bought the parachute argument, if you don't trust your controller 100% of the time why do you trust it to work when you need it?

As a side note, it seems that it's the Meg divers that are the biggest supporters of diving the units manually all of the time - is this the SOP as advised through training or the manufacturer?

Cheers

Rich


Why do I punish myself so much

Everyone is splitting hairs between the choice of hitting manual add, and letting the solenoid fire. The purpose behind the process of eCCR manual flight is to build the required habit. This without the adition of beepers/buzzers/vibrators or any other redundant complexity!

You don't have to press the manual add! Just pretend if you want and let the solenoid fire.

I believe this has served me and likewise for anyone else who tries it for awhile. I don't have the 1000's hours (only 100's) and I can notice how easy it is to let complacency creep in. Manual flight for me is good discipline maintenance (and it should be for others as well)!
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