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**jmurba** · 5th January 2007, 20:20

Quote: (Originally Posted by RichClark)

Thats a very good point - i do feel that by diving my KISS i'm much more in 'tune' with my unit, more so perhaps than using a newbie using a eCCR. I would expect this to carry over, if i ever do move to a eCCR.

Cheers

Rich

Hi rich,

all of that has a Limit.

I've dived kiss style without alarms for long following what Gordon Smith was preaching years ago (alarms and automatic systems are lowering diver guard and are leading him to death).

For long I could show off saying with my kiss style i have never had less then .70 bars of o2 in my loop....

I recently jumped in my rib, switched on my gps, and arrived on a wrong dive site.

The viz bad (i am not used of that in Cannes), once at the bottom a tried the recognized the site, ans has it was not the one i thought it took me 15 minuted lingering at the bottom to realize that i was not where a tought.

Of course i lost my way and was preoccupied by the situation (necessity of finding back the anchor line beacause no one was on the rib)

For the first time in my life I must have spnt at least 10' without watching my meter......and as during this time I ascended from 45 m to 30m following the bottom the ppo2 went down to .60 bars, a ppo2 that i learnt cheking my meter after say 10' on anchor seeking at the bottom !!!!!

I don't have a lot of CCR hours (arround 300) but I relly thougth that it could not happend to me.....

The worst point of the story is that I have buitl a good metter that drives good and loud alarms and that I prfer not to use it cause the mark munro has mutch pleasant displays than my 2x16 lcd display that It is not pleasant to read : see the photos http://www.rebreatherworld.com/photo...php/photo/3488

Even if gordon was a fantastic Rebreather man I think now that even if some of us fly manually to master the machine , we need good and reliabl automatic systems either to inject o2 if there is not enough either to let us know clearly that there is not enough.

I think that using the automatic injection system as a back up, is a good idea, but why don't you add your ECCR a kiss valve to lower your task load ?

regards

jean mi

5th January 2007, 20:20	#96 (permalink)
jmurba wet bear Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: May 2006 Location: cannes france Posts: 919	Re: Minimising Rebreather Deaths / Fatalities Quote: (Originally Posted by RichClark) Thats a very good point - i do feel that by diving my KISS i'm much more in 'tune' with my unit, more so perhaps than using a newbie using a eCCR. I would expect this to carry over, if i ever do move to a eCCR. Cheers Rich Hi rich, all of that has a Limit. I've dived kiss style without alarms for long following what Gordon Smith was preaching years ago (alarms and automatic systems are lowering diver guard and are leading him to death). For long I could show off saying with my kiss style i have never had less then .70 bars of o2 in my loop.... I recently jumped in my rib, switched on my gps, and arrived on a wrong dive site. The viz bad (i am not used of that in Cannes), once at the bottom a tried the recognized the site, ans has it was not the one i thought it took me 15 minuted lingering at the bottom to realize that i was not where a tought. Of course i lost my way and was preoccupied by the situation (necessity of finding back the anchor line beacause no one was on the rib) For the first time in my life I must have spnt at least 10' without watching my meter......and as during this time I ascended from 45 m to 30m following the bottom the ppo2 went down to .60 bars, a ppo2 that i learnt cheking my meter after say 10' on anchor seeking at the bottom !!!!! I don't have a lot of CCR hours (arround 300) but I relly thougth that it could not happend to me..... The worst point of the story is that I have buitl a good metter that drives good and loud alarms and that I prfer not to use it cause the mark munro has mutch pleasant displays than my 2x16 lcd display that It is not pleasant to read : see the photos http://www.rebreatherworld.com/photo...php/photo/3488 Even if gordon was a fantastic Rebreather man I think now that even if some of us fly manually to master the machine , we need good and reliabl automatic systems either to inject o2 if there is not enough either to let us know clearly that there is not enough. I think that using the automatic injection system as a back up, is a good idea, but why don't you add your ECCR a kiss valve to lower your task load ? regards jean mi
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