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rdmmdr)

i am sorry that i don't dive to seven hundred feet.
so am I - but what the **** has that got to with discussing if CCR is safer than OC on
shallow non overhead recreational dives? A dive doesnt have to be deep or long to be an overhead dive or to be one where a CCR gives a safety benefit. You yourself brought up the kelp diving as an example.
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And personaly think that anyone that does that without a full surface support team of sat divers is nuts.
well thanks for making this personal. I think anyone using a CCR for shallow recreational non overhead dives is nuts - but apparently Im not allowed to have my opinion.

at least not without being called names
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if i want a little more bottom time at 100ft and figure a rebreather is the way to go why not.
because (ill say it slowly so you understand) it
adds uneccessary risk thats why.
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what this thread was about how to keep us alive,
yes thats why my comment about ccr bringing uneccesary risk to recreational dives is a valid opinion to write here.
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your diving is how to keep us dead.
there you go again making this personal - so Im nuts right? well Im still alive AND unlike you Im the one advocating safer dive practicies - and IM the nutty one?
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there is less then .001% of the divers in the world that dive to those depths and still live. But most who have done it are dead.
again this has nothing to do with anything. Nobody said CCR is only for 700feet dives there are plenty of shallow overhead dives or dives in the sub 50m range where a ccr is a wiser option
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While i respect the big ones you have hanging, 95% of us are going to be diving ing the 50 to 85 meter range. So let us limit this thread to reasonable depths, that the current users who own rebreathers dive. We need the practice, so lets go dive.
I was limiting the discussion to reasonable depths. You are the one who brought exrieme 700 feet dives into it. The vast majority of my CCR diving is in 50-85m range
Say what you like call me names and be a smart ass all you like but its a fact that;
Using ccr on shallow non overhead dives increases the risk of death on that dive compared to using OC.
This thread is about reducing risk and keeping people alive.
I would have thought all this was glaringly obvious...