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Jim · 1st January 2007, 16:08

Quote: (Originally Posted by Janos)

Jim. You are basing your opinions on what has happened to you and applying it to all divers. Thing is, you're not a typical diver, and you're doing different diving to the majority of divers in the world, including probably / possibly the original post here.

Also you need to be careful about extrapolating your experiences. Last year I was on a boat with someone who missed all of his stops after a trimix dive to 45 metres. He got away with no symptoms. It 'worked' for him on that occasion but I'm still going to do deco! That's why we need stats and not anecdotes.

Just because your operation was successful and your PFO was picked up it doesn't mean that everyone else's is. I know of someone who had an allergic reaction the the implant (not nice) and it is not without risk.

That said, because I am a similar sort of diver to you, if I had multiple bends then yes I would get tested and if I had a large PFO like yours then I would probably get it fixed. But you and I (and the rest of the board) aren't typical divers.

If Missus Janos (a recreational diver) had a single bend then I'm not sure whether it's sensible for her to have the PFO test or not. TEE might be worth it but I'm don't know about a TOE. Fingers crossed we won't have to make that decision

Janos

I trust Missus Janos doesn't require the experience either for both your sakes.

Just got back from my run and chilled out nicely - FU&*ed !!

I fully appreciate all divers are not the same, not too sure the deco story adds much to the argument (wasn't Duncan was it?), but I did mention 'Tech' divers several times and being a rebreather forum most reading and posting are effectively tekkies? You are correct the original post possibly wasn't a Tech diver (although given his possible bottom times he may be and just doesn't know it !!!!).

APitkin sounds like a man in the know !! Even if you do hale from cloud cukoo land !! I take back my comment re Chamber Operators and apologise ...... uncalled for.

Janos, I note you are a lot closer for that beer - will catch up at some point diving out of Brighton / Eastbourne ??

All the best.

1st January 2007, 16:08	#43 (permalink)
Jim Lovable Cockhead ! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Purley, UK Posts: 152	Re: DCI: What could have triggered it? Quote: (Originally Posted by Janos) Jim. You are basing your opinions on what has happened to you and applying it to all divers. Thing is, you're not a typical diver, and you're doing different diving to the majority of divers in the world, including probably / possibly the original post here. Also you need to be careful about extrapolating your experiences. Last year I was on a boat with someone who missed all of his stops after a trimix dive to 45 metres. He got away with no symptoms. It 'worked' for him on that occasion but I'm still going to do deco! That's why we need stats and not anecdotes. Just because your operation was successful and your PFO was picked up it doesn't mean that everyone else's is. I know of someone who had an allergic reaction the the implant (not nice) and it is not without risk. That said, because I am a similar sort of diver to you, if I had multiple bends then yes I would get tested and if I had a large PFO like yours then I would probably get it fixed. But you and I (and the rest of the board) aren't typical divers. If Missus Janos (a recreational diver) had a single bend then I'm not sure whether it's sensible for her to have the PFO test or not. TEE might be worth it but I'm don't know about a TOE. Fingers crossed we won't have to make that decision Janos I trust Missus Janos doesn't require the experience either for both your sakes. Just got back from my run and chilled out nicely - FU&ed !! I fully appreciate all divers are not the same, not too sure the deco story adds much to the argument (wasn't Duncan was it?), but I did mention 'Tech' divers several times and being a rebreather forum most reading and posting are effectively tekkies? You are correct the original post possibly wasn't a Tech diver (although given his possible bottom times he may be and just doesn't know it !!!!). APitkin sounds like a man in the know !! Even if you do hale from cloud cukoo land !! I take back my comment re Chamber Operators and apologise ...... uncalled for. Janos, I note you are a lot closer for that beer - will catch up at some point diving out of Brighton / Eastbourne ?? All the best. __________________ Jim Spence Last edited by Jim : 1st January 2007 at 16:21. Reason: Spelling and post thought!*
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