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Genesis · 23rd November 2006, 23:55

Yes, and not all that long ago we had people ringing accolades and awarding prizes for accomplishing cold fusion - a true miracle and breakthrough if it had been true.

Unfortunately, in the fullness of time, the truth came out.

All the arm waving and awards are very nice and make for great wallpaper. But we are talking about human lives here, and to the extent that someone is abusing the public trust by crowing over such "accomplishments" if they are not true they deserve scorn and derision, not praise.

The trouble here is that it is not possible to know which is the case. At least not now. And, I might add, not even when or if this device sees release to the recreational diving public - at least not for a while. Suspicion is further raised when Alex uses this "accomplishment" to bash every similar device he can find (even those who are not competing with him), going so far as to making the statement that they are being sold contrary to legal requirements. Never mind the allegation that the manufacturer of sensors that just about every unit specifies and uses (Teledyne) is producing a device that is unfit for the purpose sold and dangerous besides.

Yet Alex either cannot or will not produce the evidence behind his charges, and none of these other firms has been forced to pull their products, recall and refund user's money, or come into compliance.

Now I am willing to give Alex the benefit of the doubt on his claims, provided that DeepLife is willing to back its bravado, FMECAs and public pronouncements with its corporate 'nads.

Simply publish a statement on corporate letterhead that the DeepLife rebreather, with a better than one billion hour MTBCF, has an expected failure rate so low that there is no need to dive with bailout, as your risk of being struck by lightning exceeds the risk of the unit failing at an inappropriate time in a way that could lead to your demise.

If they really believe what they're saying, then why not do it officially, in public, on corporate letterhead - staking the company on their claims and opening themselves up to ruinous lawsuits if it is later proved they are incorrect.

If DeepLife is unwilling to do that, then why should anyone take their design seriously? Before you can ask me to trust your device, shouldn't you be willing to back up the bravado with your corporate life? After all, you're asking me to bet my real life through the act of believing you!

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Genesis Bubbless Box of Death Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Sunny Florida Posts: 1,397	Re: Cell Linearity Yes, and not all that long ago we had people ringing accolades and awarding prizes for accomplishing cold fusion - a true miracle and breakthrough if it had been true. Unfortunately, in the fullness of time, the truth came out. All the arm waving and awards are very nice and make for great wallpaper. But we are talking about human lives here, and to the extent that someone is abusing the public trust by crowing over such "accomplishments" if they are not true they deserve scorn and derision, not praise. The trouble here is that it is not possible to know which is the case. At least not now. And, I might add, not even when or if this device sees release to the recreational diving public - at least not for a while. Suspicion is further raised when Alex uses this "accomplishment" to bash every similar device he can find (even those who are not competing with him), going so far as to making the statement that they are being sold contrary to legal requirements. Never mind the allegation that the manufacturer of sensors that just about every unit specifies and uses (Teledyne) is producing a device that is unfit for the purpose sold and dangerous besides. Yet Alex either cannot or will not produce the evidence behind his charges, and none of these other firms has been forced to pull their products, recall and refund user's money, or come into compliance. Now I am willing to give Alex the benefit of the doubt on his claims, provided that DeepLife is willing to back its bravado, FMECAs and public pronouncements with its corporate 'nads. Simply publish a statement on corporate letterhead that the DeepLife rebreather, with a better than one billion hour MTBCF, has an expected failure rate so low that there is no need to dive with bailout, as your risk of being struck by lightning exceeds the risk of the unit failing at an inappropriate time in a way that could lead to your demise. If they really believe what they're saying, then why not do it officially, in public, on corporate letterhead - staking the company on their claims and opening themselves up to ruinous lawsuits if it is later proved they are incorrect. If DeepLife is unwilling to do that, then why should anyone take their design seriously? Before you can ask me to trust your device, shouldn't you be willing to back up the bravado with your corporate life? After all, you're asking me to bet my real life through the act of believing you! __________________ "A venturesome minority will always be eager to get off on their own, and no obstacles should be placed in their path; let them take risks for Godsake, let them get lost, sunburnt, stranded, drowned, eaten by bears, buried alive under avalanches - that is the right and privilege of any free American." http://www.denninger.net http://www.diversunion.org/liability.htm - Fix the Diving Cert racket Last edited by Genesis : 23rd November 2006 at 23:58.
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