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Old 12th September 2006, 22:38   #19 (permalink)
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Re: Any news?

Quote: (Originally Posted by divetheworld) View Original Post
C'mon Alex, you know thats not anywhere near true.
1, Standards are not law, and compliance with Harmonised standards is not required by law.
Conformity with a national standard that transposes a harmonised standard, whose reference has been published, confers a presumption of conformity with the essential requirements of the applicable New Approach directive that is covered by such a standard. The references in the Official Journal do not support your comment.
2. 61508 has a scope, the scrubber cart is not covered by that scope. The reference in EN14143 is exactly as follows;

5.13 Electrical systems
5.13.1 Functional safety
Any electrical, electronic or programmable electronic part of the apparatus shall satisfy the requirements of IEC 61508, Part 1 to Part 7.
Testing shall be done in accordance with 6.2.



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The requirement for CE marking of product is law.
The requirements to be met for a CE mark is set down by regulatory standards.

Your point that the standard itself is not law is true, but compliance with the standard is a legal requirement by virtue of the need for CE marking.

EN61508 covers the whole equipment that incorporates electronic, electrical or programmable assemblies because it is a requirement that the assembly prevents a critical failure of the equipment with a higher probability than its rated SIL level (in this case, SIL 4). It is a requirement of EN61508 to extend the reaches of the system, so one cannot isolate a small piece of electronics and say that alone meets SIL x.

By making EN61508 normative for EN14143:2003, it casts a wide net. Much wider than the authors of EN14143 intended, I am sure.

I accept that a canister that is not in an eCCR is not covered by EN61508, which is why I was careful to specify eCCRs in my posting.

Cheers,
Alex

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