Rebreather World - View Single Post - Cross over courses

Drmike · 27th January 2006, 11:26

The agencies talk about their existence but when Ive spoken to instuctors in reality is always:

"Oh the units are completely different so we dont do crossover courses"

Or

"This is a complex unit so we teach everyone as if they are new users"

I think this is BS. When I did my MK15.5 cross over I had to do the full course and to be honest what I needed to learn could have been covered easily in one day - max! I enjoyed the course and treated it more like a dive holiday - but I dont want to fork out the time and money for a full course everytime I change units - thats a rip off.

I dont need to do any of the non unit specific skills/drills. Come on running semiclosed? Manual injections? Hardly rocket science - if youve done this on one unit why repeat?. Seems to me there is only justification in teaching/charging for the unit specific stuff focusing MORE on maintenance and less on stuff that should be second nature to those who have done any Rebreather diving let alone a course at the same or higher levels on a different Rebreather.

Id like to run a poll to see how many people when they change units actually did a reduce cost/time unit cross over and how many got ripped off?

Im naturally not against training but I am against getting ripped off.

What is others experience?

27th January 2006, 11:26	#1 (permalink)
Drmike RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Ouroboros Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,333	Cross over courses - fact or fiction? The agencies talk about their existence but when Ive spoken to instuctors in reality is always: "Oh the units are completely different so we dont do crossover courses" Or "This is a complex unit so we teach everyone as if they are new users" I think this is BS. When I did my MK15.5 cross over I had to do the full course and to be honest what I needed to learn could have been covered easily in one day - max! I enjoyed the course and treated it more like a dive holiday - but I dont want to fork out the time and money for a full course everytime I change units - thats a rip off. I dont need to do any of the non unit specific skills/drills. Come on running semiclosed? Manual injections? Hardly rocket science - if youve done this on one unit why repeat?. Seems to me there is only justification in teaching/charging for the unit specific stuff focusing MORE on maintenance and less on stuff that should be second nature to those who have done any Rebreather diving let alone a course at the same or higher levels on a different Rebreather. Id like to run a poll to see how many people when they change units actually did a reduce cost/time unit cross over and how many got ripped off? Im naturally not against training but I am against getting ripped off. What is others experience? __________________ Cave diving is a sport Wreck diving is a sport Diving in general is a sport 'Rebreather diving' is not a sport its the delusional obsession with a highly dangerous and often inappropriate piece of equipment
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