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divetheworld · 22nd January 2006, 11:24

Quote: (Originally Posted by sven)

Is this written somewhere, where can I find it?
I am finding it hard to get my Inspiration tanks (Faber) hydroed and stamped here in Oz. I assume that they are CE certified - I'll go and check with Faber, just in case. The original tanks don't have a burst disk - not a requirement in the U.K., but in Oz. Any help would be appreciated.

Went through this before, Faber have certificates available which demonstrate the EU market version and the Oz versions are the same produced model with different markings on it.

The Faber steel cylinder is made exactly the same for the UK under the PED regulations as it is for the Aussies. go to their site to collect the Faber data sheets showing that the only difference is the stamp on the tank which is applied for the specific market that the cylinder is destined for.

I was involved in trying to straighten out the cock up in the UK when the Pressure Equipment Directive came into force. I corresponded with Mike Harwood from the HSE and Peter Prince at Aqualung UK (The importer od Faber cylinders) to allow the original markings to be accepted on mixed gas fills whilst the transition was in effect. Some of you might remember the "cant fill that its stamped with 'breathing air'" conversations. The fix for that was the re-marking of cyls that we had agreed for available stocks.

In essence, the new directive came into force and the standards dictated the certification depending upon which gas was to be used for each cylinder. there was a line drawn between different levels of gas service and cylinder which undergo a change of gas service had to be remarked. 21% O2 was the change over point. this means that if a cylinder is marked with air, you could not fill with EANX until the cylinder had undergone a gas service change procedure or vis-a-versa. This was to stop idiots putting different gases into industrial cylinders without following a proper safety procedure. Problem was, no-one on the committee thought about the regular changes divers make in gas contents. Essentially each time you put in a new fill, you needed a new tank cert. After admitting that they dropped a bollock, we were able to agree on the remarking of cylinders.

This specific problem is avoided by the freedom of marketing of goods agreement between our countries. Without this agreement, Australian good would suffer greatly from being rejected from the European Union without EU certification. Remember, it is not just the UK, it is Europe. If they reject British cylinders, they reject European cylinders. If Europe rejected AU goods on the same basis, trade would cease.

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divetheworld Dive porn pimp Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Classic Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Leeds, England Posts: 1,551	Re: CE Testing Quote: (Originally Posted by sven) Is this written somewhere, where can I find it? I am finding it hard to get my Inspiration tanks (Faber) hydroed and stamped here in Oz. I assume that they are CE certified - I'll go and check with Faber, just in case. The original tanks don't have a burst disk - not a requirement in the U.K., but in Oz. Any help would be appreciated. Went through this before, Faber have certificates available which demonstrate the EU market version and the Oz versions are the same produced model with different markings on it. The Faber steel cylinder is made exactly the same for the UK under the PED regulations as it is for the Aussies. go to their site to collect the Faber data sheets showing that the only difference is the stamp on the tank which is applied for the specific market that the cylinder is destined for. I was involved in trying to straighten out the cock up in the UK when the Pressure Equipment Directive came into force. I corresponded with Mike Harwood from the HSE and Peter Prince at Aqualung UK (The importer od Faber cylinders) to allow the original markings to be accepted on mixed gas fills whilst the transition was in effect. Some of you might remember the "cant fill that its stamped with 'breathing air'" conversations. The fix for that was the re-marking of cyls that we had agreed for available stocks. In essence, the new directive came into force and the standards dictated the certification depending upon which gas was to be used for each cylinder. there was a line drawn between different levels of gas service and cylinder which undergo a change of gas service had to be remarked. 21% O2 was the change over point. this means that if a cylinder is marked with air, you could not fill with EANX until the cylinder had undergone a gas service change procedure or vis-a-versa. This was to stop idiots putting different gases into industrial cylinders without following a proper safety procedure. Problem was, no-one on the committee thought about the regular changes divers make in gas contents. Essentially each time you put in a new fill, you needed a new tank cert. After admitting that they dropped a bollock, we were able to agree on the remarking of cylinders. This specific problem is avoided by the freedom of marketing of goods agreement between our countries. Without this agreement, Australian good would suffer greatly from being rejected from the European Union without EU certification. Remember, it is not just the UK, it is Europe. If they reject British cylinders, they reject European cylinders. If Europe rejected AU goods on the same basis, trade would cease. __________________ Self praise is no reccomendation. Dont try to be a great man, just be a man and let history be the judge of you. CHECK OUT OUR INTERWEBS FOR CUSTOM REBREATHER UPGRADES *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *http://www.grpservices.com/pursuit/* Supporting Shearwater Research Products in Europe Last edited by divetheworld : 22nd January 2006 at 11:39.
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