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Drmike · 9th May 2008, 13:15

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton)

Hi Mike, long time, no debate...

I'd have to toss this one up into the air and catch it with either one or the other hand: In the water? Dunno what advantage it really offers, and when I have an eCCR 'capable' rig on my back no matter hybrid or not, I always let the eCCR part do it's job and that's that. I'd never 'improve' an existing eCCR to add another system, just does not make sense. And at the same time, I'm equally delighted to dive a basic mCCR and find their simplicity to be a nice change of pace.

On the other hand, and this is unit specific: The thing I particularly like about the rEvo's hybrid design is the modular flexibility, which allows a 'trip saver' mode to be used in case the eCCR controller decides to go on walkies during the middle of a trip. No decision to be made... just jump in and dive it as an mCCR. Seems to hold value insofar as an expedition capable rig is concerned. Other rigs set up as hybrids? Dunno: The mechanation to me is just as important as anything else. Not many other rigs will offer dual PP02 monitors even after a total eCCR controller failure on site.

Dave

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Hi Dave, long time,

Having done lots of trip rebuilds I like the idea of having a 'trip saver' in case one o2 inject system fails - but that is a different thing I think than the concept of a parachute system

Of course we could just all dive units with reliable controllers in the 1st place lol! [yeh I know and I aint even drunk!]

If I was diving a KISS unit and it failed on a trip - recon a few o-rings would sufice as a trip saver (pack smaller/lighter and cheaper) than a whole new electronic control system

Ive been forced to dive several of my eccr units with no electronic injection when they failed - I think its actually good practice to do it now and then anyway so wouldnt let no electronics spoil my trip. No need to add a KISS valve when I have a display and a manual inject button for those (hopefuly) very few times my electronics fail on a trip. If my electronics were so unreliable that I needed a back up Id be buying a different rebreather frankly

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Drmike Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Ouroboros Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,325	Re: Hybrid Rebreathers Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton) Hi Mike, long time, no debate... I'd have to toss this one up into the air and catch it with either one or the other hand: In the water? Dunno what advantage it really offers, and when I have an eCCR 'capable' rig on my back no matter hybrid or not, I always let the eCCR part do it's job and that's that. I'd never 'improve' an existing eCCR to add another system, just does not make sense. And at the same time, I'm equally delighted to dive a basic mCCR and find their simplicity to be a nice change of pace. On the other hand, and this is unit specific: The thing I particularly like about the rEvo's hybrid design is the modular flexibility, which allows a 'trip saver' mode to be used in case the eCCR controller decides to go on walkies during the middle of a trip. No decision to be made... just jump in and dive it as an mCCR. Seems to hold value insofar as an expedition capable rig is concerned. Other rigs set up as hybrids? Dunno: The mechanation to me is just as important as anything else. Not many other rigs will offer dual PP02 monitors even after a total eCCR controller failure on site. Dave . Hi Dave, long time, Having done lots of trip rebuilds I like the idea of having a 'trip saver' in case one o2 inject system fails - but that is a different thing I think than the concept of a parachute system Of course we could just all dive units with reliable controllers in the 1st place lol! [yeh I know and I aint even drunk!] If I was diving a KISS unit and it failed on a trip - recon a few o-rings would sufice as a trip saver (pack smaller/lighter and cheaper) than a whole new electronic control system Ive been forced to dive several of my eccr units with no electronic injection when they failed - I think its actually good practice to do it now and then anyway so wouldnt let no electronics spoil my trip. No need to add a KISS valve when I have a display and a manual inject button for those (hopefuly) very few times my electronics fail on a trip. If my electronics were so unreliable that I needed a back up Id be buying a different rebreather frankly __________________ Cave diving is a sport Wreck diving is a sport Diving in general is a sport 'Rebreather diving' is not a sport its the delusional obsession with a highly dangerous and often inappropriate piece of equipment Last edited by Drmike : 9th May 2008 at 13:20.
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