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AD_ward9 · 10th April 2008, 17:03

Hi Paul,

Gavin Anthony is not a Notified Body AFAIK, and Qinetiq are not listed as PPE Notified Bodies for this type of PPE, but it would be best to check with him at source by emailing or phoning him: he is a very helpful gentleman, has lots of good test facilities in house and the experience to use them.

The Notified Body you want is Mark Dawes at the Bradford office of SGS. I will PM his email and phone number. There are two others in Europe who are accredited for this, but Mark Dawes is the best in my view.

Cheers

Alex

Quote: (Originally Posted by paulraymaekers)

Hello all:

At the moment is seems not so easy to have the CE 14143 changed that it allows mCCR's.
But it is also clear that a unit does not have to meet all the requirements, and still get a CE rating, if it does not concern a life-critical item.

So it depends on the notified body that goes over the technical file, and wether or not it finds the file to comply with the standard or not.

so it seems that an easier way to get mCCR's CE rated, would be starting a discussing with a notified body, and convince them that the unique properties of the mCCR's, wich make them impossible to meet certain criteria, are not life-critical, but just have an improved safety.

criteria that are not met by mCCR's:
mCCR's do not automaticallly maintain a breatheble PPO2: they will fail the test on the breathing machine both hypoxic and hyperoxic

all other tests in CE can be applied to both eCCR and mCCR

so to what notified body, who, can this discussion be adressed to?

paul

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AD_ward9 So much more to learn Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,862	Re: Where to start: discussing with a notified body? Hi Paul, Gavin Anthony is not a Notified Body AFAIK, and Qinetiq are not listed as PPE Notified Bodies for this type of PPE, but it would be best to check with him at source by emailing or phoning him: he is a very helpful gentleman, has lots of good test facilities in house and the experience to use them. The Notified Body you want is Mark Dawes at the Bradford office of SGS. I will PM his email and phone number. There are two others in Europe who are accredited for this, but Mark Dawes is the best in my view. Cheers Alex Quote: (Originally Posted by paulraymaekers) Hello all: At the moment is seems not so easy to have the CE 14143 changed that it allows mCCR's. But it is also clear that a unit does not have to meet all the requirements, and still get a CE rating, if it does not concern a life-critical item. So it depends on the notified body that goes over the technical file, and wether or not it finds the file to comply with the standard or not. so it seems that an easier way to get mCCR's CE rated, would be starting a discussing with a notified body, and convince them that the unique properties of the mCCR's, wich make them impossible to meet certain criteria, are not life-critical, but just have an improved safety. criteria that are not met by mCCR's: mCCR's do not automaticallly maintain a breatheble PPO2: they will fail the test on the breathing machine both hypoxic and hyperoxic all other tests in CE can be applied to both eCCR and mCCR so to what notified body, who, can this discussion be adressed to? paul Last edited by AD_ward9 : 10th April 2008 at 17:49.
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