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Ben Field)

[/list]IMVHO- The hose routing is a setup issue, mine came with hoses around the outside- go figure. Also they've removed the Pargon, currently it ships with the Mares but yes- Paragon is/was poo.
Its imposable to rout the dill outsie the unit without getting an after initial purchase plug for the manifold. I have modified my unit in several ways but I dont think thats relevent to the concept of faults with the standard unit.
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I (as a non-Inspiration diver) do not understand the pos/neg issue, I don't find the short tests that are possible an issue, I have not yet failed to detect a setup defect with the pos or neg.
As an ex inspo diver I do find the pos neg issues with the KISS a little alarming. Especialy in the light of the poor flood tolerance of the unit. However i do longish dives and perhaps am more sensitive to the issue. I know when i have had neg failures on the KISS its been very hard to do a good poss to enable fault tracing.
Also with neg tests i live in constant fear of damaging the ADV.
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Lastly the inability to connect offboard gas, lack of HUD and design WRT to flooding aren't "faults" they are design features... a fault is the diabolical PPO2 displays provided as standard which IMO are not fit for purpose (and you missed them off your list?)
Your design feature is my fault
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My list is (of actual faults common to stock KISS, IMO)-
1. Shocking electronics WRT flooding and battery changes.
2. ADV, use of, position of, reliability