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iain-hsm)
Mike
Your words, these are your words above Mike, not mine. I have no axe, just maybe too sharp a pencil (for some) besides both the military both here and the US are into equal opportunites and actively encourage small companies.
sharp pencil is not an issue - as long as it has a rubber (eraser for our non english speaking american friends) on one end to correct mistakes
Fact is when it comes to large tenders (as Im sure you know) - they often have strict criteria as to what sort of company actually qualify. I believe you are fully aware of this.
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For example Kevin Juergensen (Juergensen Marine) were awarded the US Navy Mark16 Mod 2 contract,
Time to use that eraser again. Juergensen Marine
wasnt awarded the military contract. That was awarded to the sizeable and track record company
Carleton Technologies (who would therefore have to (and can) meet the infrastructure req.) , they subcontracted some of the work (the electronics) to the newly formed company Juergensen Defense.
And FWIW the total contract was half the value of the UK one and only some of that money will go to JD
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Also Prism (your comment above) have won contracts with Paragon Space Development both hardly huge companies but non the less they have military contracts.
And how many prisms are being used by any navy?
even if they have - so what? Each tender req. is different. Mil needs are different.
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So back to the Sentinal I now ask "What Military has bought the “military” version? Please name them, just one (1) even, name just one military customer that has bought this “military” rebreather. iain
none. same number who have bought an inspiration or a Prism or a Meg or ....... Any company that makes a product that 'could' be of interest to the military would be quite stupid not to offer it to them (given the potential order size), heck the Trojan you refered to was a black covered YBOD I recall seeing pics of more than 7 years ago. Just because someone calls it a military version - doesnt mean its anything more than them showing their product to the military in hope of raising interest - especially (as in this case with the senitinel) theres no contracts being offered anyway (at that time)
Military specs mean nothing unless you need the same specs. The YBOD failed to meet mil specs with its battery placement.. Big deal! does that mean the YBOD is sh1t? no.
I used to make EOD systems and sell them to the military (Explosive ordinance disposal system) basically machines to safely disarm bombs in laymans terms. We failed to get certain Mil contracts because we didnt meet some of the infrastructure or company track record requirements - didnt mean our product was sh1t...in fact 6 years later won a very sizeable contract - same product, just by then we met all the req.