Quote: (Originally Posted by
iain-hsm)
Dave.
With all your (Quote) "extensive experience" I have taken today from your website page 4 "Features background and overview" you quote of the Sentinel M (Military) option.
Again I ask: How many Navy's in the world have bought this product?
Hi Iain,
That is a document provided by CCRB, perhaps you should ask them? I think it shows a model that is available for purchase by the military or is intended for the military market. Did they not display the Sentinel for the first time at a military show?
I'm also confused as I think the first person to bring up the mention of the military Sentinel was your goodself, not me!
If something is aimed at a military market, should it not be named a military version or perhaps you mean that one needs to wait to have actually sold to a Navy to do that.
I think the Danish military have bought some Ouroboros's incidentally, Rasmus should be able to confirm.
If you are saying that just because something is military supplied that it is good, then err, sorry, you have different experience than me and probably different experience from a lot of todays poor sods who are doing a magnificent job in Iraq and Afghanistan with not-optimal kit (at least that's what my mates serving in those two theatres tell me!).
The reverse of that is that just because something does not win a military contract doesn't make it crap either.
I am talking generally about military equipment and not taking a dig at any specific fields like CCR, your area of expertise, hence my mention of the SA80, I could add to that list, radios that don't work, bayonets that don't fit, boots that fall apart, bayonets that melt when the weapon is fired extensively etc etc.
People need to lighten up here, I have an Ouroboros and am very happy with it and I will be getting my Sentinel in a few weeks time and very happy with the prospect of getting to grips with that too.
I have had nothing but exemplary customer support and customer service from CCRB, that is why I was happy to confirm my order for the 'Baby Boris' 18 months ago. The reason being I discussed the project through with CCRB staff and was happy to be a part of this new and exciting piece of kit.
If you don't like them, and I respect fully your knowledge and experience gained in your specialist field, then that is your right.
If you do like them, then I apologise for my misunderstanding as you do come across a bit anti?
My point is that military purchasing as a benchmark, is not, in my humble experience, a reason to, or indeed not to, buy a CCR for the civilian market.
Is it just me but I couldn't care less whether they sell to a military market or not.
I'm still confused though Iain, what is actually your point, with your experience, if you are trying to say something valuable then I want to hear it, I am just not sure of what you are angling at?
Cheers,
Dave Cooper.