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**PhilSiswick** · 15th January 2008, 16:57

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ant Slegg)

It would require an enormous organisation to respond within the <60mins required to effect a rescue and I appreciate that this is unrealistic.

Recovery by professionals doesn't strike me as any more risky than the mountain rescue type incidents that we see occasionally. What I'd like to se is a situation that differs from what I saw i.e. that after two friends of mine re-entered the water having already dived the wreck no other divers carried out a search (ROVs being used to examine the outside of the wreck). I believe that if the police and the navy are unable to do this type of search then someone else should be able to.

The option to ban wreck diving is unlikely (can you imagine what would happen in the Orkney's as far as tourism is concerned) but I suppose is not impossible.

I think that you could also view this as 'allow the creation of', as was almost certainly the case with the Mountain Rescue organisations. One of the issues here is that, even if they wanted to, a group of divers is not allowed to access the site to conduct a survey, let alone a rescue, as an exclusion zone remains around the wreck.

A formally recognised group with a role in such an incident could at least conduct a survey where Police and MOD divers did not have the skills. This would be, as Mountain Rescue work is, under the supervision of the relevant Authorities (Police and Harbours in this case).

I am aware of several initiatives to put such a group in place in Scapa. There is clearly a wish and a need to do so, so this is a request for support to put that on a formal footing.

Thanks,

15th January 2008, 16:57	#6 (permalink)
PhilSiswick WSKD 0001 Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 922	Re: Diver Rescue Quote: (Originally Posted by Ant Slegg) It would require an enormous organisation to respond within the <60mins required to effect a rescue and I appreciate that this is unrealistic. Recovery by professionals doesn't strike me as any more risky than the mountain rescue type incidents that we see occasionally. What I'd like to se is a situation that differs from what I saw i.e. that after two friends of mine re-entered the water having already dived the wreck no other divers carried out a search (ROVs being used to examine the outside of the wreck). I believe that if the police and the navy are unable to do this type of search then someone else should be able to. The option to ban wreck diving is unlikely (can you imagine what would happen in the Orkney's as far as tourism is concerned) but I suppose is not impossible. I think that you could also view this as 'allow the creation of', as was almost certainly the case with the Mountain Rescue organisations. One of the issues here is that, even if they wanted to, a group of divers is not allowed to access the site to conduct a survey, let alone a rescue, as an exclusion zone remains around the wreck. A formally recognised group with a role in such an incident could at least conduct a survey where Police and MOD divers did not have the skills. This would be, as Mountain Rescue work is, under the supervision of the relevant Authorities (Police and Harbours in this case). I am aware of several initiatives to put such a group in place in Scapa. There is clearly a wish and a need to do so, so this is a request for support to put that on a formal footing. Thanks, __________________ Phil No comment on open circuit... it's an evolutionary dead end not really worth discussing here. Dave Sutton, 2007 I have always felt that the dive I am on is not nearly important as the dives I plan to be on the rest of my life. Tom Rose, 2007 www.hugsac.org.uk
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